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Article #235Re: Photoshop and scrambled HDDs? [Was: PartitionMagic]
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:15
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:15
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"Andrew Mc" <andrew@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:c1mb9601407@drn.newsguy.com... > In article <403ea76e$0$5870$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Miro says... > > > > > >"Andrew Mc" <andrew@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > >news:c1m0ue02b6@drn.newsguy.com... > >> In article <403e7c97$0$28870$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, Miro says... > >> > > >> > > >> >Really, what happens if you blow two drives in a raid 5 setup ? Dont say > >it > >> >never happens, it did. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> You replace the drives in question and restore from last nights backup. > > > >You have a means of backing up 2 terrabytes ? The answer is to use a "cold" > >standby in a spare drive bay. A drive that isnt running, spins up and takes > >the place of the first dead one. The second failure, if it is more than 30 > >minutes after the first one, wont affect the raid stripe. > > > >RAID is supposed to be N-1 ( for every 5 drives you use, you only get the > >benefit of 4 drives storage in total.) but it is really N-2 or N-3 > > > >I agree with the earlier post .... the Raptor is a drive to keep an eye on. > > > > > > If you don't have the means of backing up 2 terabytes, then you shouldn't be > storing it. Unless of course your lovely system can withstand a fire or a flood, > or some other disaster. Or the data really isn't that important anyway. If it > is, then anyone not backing up such an amount of data is an idiot. > Try convincing the people you do work for that offsite storage is important. I had to give a customer the flick because they have sensitive data and wont backup yet expect me to be faultless 100% of the time. So, I gave them all the details of backing up, what it would cost and even offered to store data offsite for free on my own spare HDs (yes, I have quite a few but no, not talking tbytes). They couldn't see the point of it because I walked in last week and got an XP machine with a STOP error back online in 10 mins (simple unmountable boot volume problem). I finally saw the light with these people when the smash repair guy doing my car says to me, when I go to pick it up, how he wanted my advice on what he could do to make sure his workshop data wouldn't be lost as he works around a lot of flammable stuff and has suffered break-ins before. I mentioned how it could be done and he asked me to do it in return for a considerable discount in car repairs so I did it. Once it was done, I finally worked out that this guy, not even remotely wanting anything to do with computers past his work related stuff, could see what these others with "sacrosanct" data could not. Idiots? Yep, they and me both. They for not backing up data nor seeing any importance in it and me for putting my neck on the line with idiots! In the end, the income lost is less than the potential income lost if I did lose them data because of THEIR stupidity and they started telling people "their side" of the story. Being the company they are, I would be shot up the arse!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109d17,1a04ed6784cbc3eb X-Google-Attributes: gid109d17,public X-Google-Thread: 108c83,1a04ed6784cbc3eb X-Google-Attributes: gid108c83,public X-Google-Thread: 10a33e,e2f42d11bea3277e X-Google-Attributes: gid10a33e,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-27 04:15:48 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!newsfeed3.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border1.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!border2.nntp.sjc.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!snewsf0.syd.ops.aspac.uu.net!nnrp1.ozemail.com.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Unknown" <thisandthat@hereandthere.oz> Newsgroups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell,aus.photo,aus.computers References: <Ftidnb81qKiNJ6XdRVn-tw@comcast.com> <IKd_b.79107$IF1.58871@nwrdny03.gnilink.net> <c1d21m$1haird$1@ID-192964.news.uni-berlin.de> <c1d2n8$1g7mmv$6@ID-151056.news.uni-berlin.de> <403a5966$0$28870$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <IQt_b.322$zm1.10343@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au> <403a93fb$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <403ac270$0$22506$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au> <403adf70$0$3128$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <403b5608$0$22523$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au> <403c41e0$0$18303$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <MPG.1aa67d16e4848ea498a257@news-server.columbus.rr.com> <629%b.76315$Wa.26774@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <MPG.1aa6f13389cd959798a25f@news-server.columbus.rr.com> <HUj%b.77267$Wa.9273@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <403DDBE5.67A77D68@ozemail.com.au> <MPG.1aa7bde53e86577498a268@news-server.columbus.rr.com> <403e7c97$0$28870$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <c1m0ue02b6@drn.newsguy.com> <403ea76e$0$5870$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <c1mb9601407@drn.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: Photoshop and scrambled HDDs? [Was: PartitionMagic] Lines: 69 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <UxG%b.171$S65.6781@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 23:15:49 +1100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.103.104.217 X-Trace: nnrp1.ozemail.com.au 1077884148 203.103.104.217 (Fri, 27 Feb 2004 23:15:48 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 23:15:48 EST