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Article #288Re: HDD, RAM and Mongrels [Was: 120 GB Hard Drive]
From: Gus
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:38
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:38
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Phred wrote: > In article <0L3Sb.28740$qx2.3400569@stones.force9.net>, > "John J. Burness" <JohnJBurnessAT@ieeDOT.org> wrote: > >>Chuck Lapre wrote: >> >>>I installed my new Dimension XPs today. The HD is supposed to be 120 GB. >>>Yet, the total size is listed as 111 GB. Free space is 104 GB. >>>I was only going to pay for 80 GB. This was an upgrade. >>>Is there a reasonable explanation, or did Dell mess up? >> >>You do HAVE a 120G HDD!! >> >>If you right-click on the Drive (within Explorer) do you get a total >>size that exceeds 120,000,000,000? That is 120G (although I have seen >>199,9xx,xxx,xxx which is NOT 120G but is "near enough"). >> >>By definition, within EVERY International Standard:- >>1k = 1,000 >>1M = 1,000k = 1,000,000 >>1G = 1,000M = 1,000,000k = 1,000,000,000 >> >>In the early days of Computing, simply because it was binary based & far >>simpler to calculate, 1k was assumed to be 1,024 (in those days nobody >>had ever thought about 1M, certainly it beyond any dreams to talk about >>1G). The odd 24 bits were not worth bothering about!! >> >>In other words, a "slang", but technically incorrect, definition started >>to be used. >> >>The consequence of the error (or mis-understanding) this creates is >>guaranteed to confuse most people! >> >>Keeping it in strictly Computer Slang definitions >>1k = 1,024 >>1M = 1,024 x 1,024 = 1,048,576 >>1G = 1,024 x 1,024 x 1,024 = 1,073,741,824 >> >>For a HDD that is correctly defined as 120G (i.e. 120,000,000,000) this >>would be displayed as 111.7G. >> >>Incidentally, your original 80G HDD would have been displayed as 74.5G! > > I actual fact I ran across three definitions of "gigabyte" when > looking at some hard disk specs on my Dell Dimension 4100 the other > day -- depending on which source was quoting the data. > > 1. Dell itself defines GB as 1000^3 bytes for HDDs, IIRC. > 2. Windows Explorer (Win ME) uses 1024^3 in "properties". > 3. Device Manager uses a hybid, 1000^2*1024. > > The 1000^3 definition seems to be used universally by manufacturers > for HDDs these days. Call it the "HDD GB". How about "decimal" or "base 10"? Didn't know Dev Mgr used a different scheme - learn something new every day on Usenet.
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