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Article #312Re: SCSI/IDE and RAID [Was: 120 gb is the Largest hard drive I can put in my 4550?]
From: David H. Lipman
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 02:32
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 02:32
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Tom: Using RAID 5, I can use 5 x 80GB drives and get 320GB instead of buying two 250GB drives. As for use of mirroring software, never. Too much overhead *always* use hardware based RAID solutions. In addition, you suggest the best solution and work you way down not the worst solutuion and work your way up. That is why I start at RAID 5 SCSI. That's the starting point and the OP can go down the list. And as also stated there is RAID 5 SATA. I was just at SeaGate Look at this SCSI drive Seagate ST336607LC MTBF (Hours) 1,200,000 hours I looked at SATA and Ultra ATA drives. They don't even list the MTBF value for these drives. Why ? because they have a much lower MTBF maybe 80K hours at best. Meaning, they have a higher failure rate. Below are three drives; SATA Ultra ATA and SCSI all approx 80GB. The drives have been selected to be similar to level the playing field. However, the SCSI drive in all aspects beats the SATA and Ultra ATA except in price. The SCSI is more expensive. rice comparisons done at http://www.cdw.com/ SATA drive Model Number:ST380013AS CDW Price $119.85 Capacity:80 GB Speed:7200 rpm Seek time:8.5 ms avg Interface:Serial ATA Internal Transfer Rate (Mbits/sec) 683 Max. External Transfer Rate (Mbytes/sec) 150 Avg. Sustained Transfer Rate (Mbytes/sec) >58 Average Seek (msec) 8.5 Average Latency (msec) 4.16 Multisegmented Cache 8192 Spindle Speed (RPM) 7200 Ultra ATA drive Model Number:ST380011A CDW price: $86.95 Capacity:80 GB Speed:7200 rpm Seek time:8.5 ms avg Interface:Ultra ATA/100 Internal Transfer Rate (Mbits/sec) 683 Max. External Transfer Rate (Mbytes/sec) 100 Avg. Sustained Transfer Rate (Mbytes/sec) >58 Average Seek (msec) 8.5 Average Latency (msec) 4.16 Multisegmented Cache 2048 Spindle Speed (RPM) 7200 Ultra320 SCSI drive Model Number:ST373307LW CDW price: $409.50 Capacity:73 GB Speed:10000 rpm Seek time:4.7 ms avg Interface:Ultra320 SCSI MTBF (Hours) 1,200,000 hours Internal Transfer Rate, ZBR (Mbits/sec) 475-840 Internal Formatted Transfer Rate (Mbytes/sec) 43-78 External Transfer Rate (mbytes/sec) 320 Track-to-track Seek Read/Write (msec) 0.3/0.5 Average Seek Read/Write (msec) 4.7/5.2 Average Latency (msec) 2.99 Spindle Speed (RPM) 10000 Dave "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message news:m9ydnV17zsB9tEyi4p2dnA@comcast.com... | Your approach is illogical and irrational. You know it, but refuse to admit | it. | | The approach I use, which is, uh, rational, is two IDE hard drives and | decent mirroring software. | | Heck of a lot cheaper than any SCSI Raid solution. SCSI is not measureably | more reliable than today's IDE drives. | | | Tom |
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