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Re: SCSI/IDE and RAID [Was: 120 gb is the Largest hard drive I can put in my 4550?]

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From: Miro
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 07:47
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > "Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:bqnifj$24q680$1@ID-151056.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > In article <iAxzb.6666$t87.2004@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>,
> > > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
> > > >"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> > > >news:PYmdnfxD5JBSBFOiRVn-jA@comcast.com...
> > > >| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
> > > >| news:zHwzb.21159$UG2.949@nwrdny03.gnilink.net...
> > > >| >
> > > >| > Go RAID 5 and SCSI and you will not have the artificial barriers
> > > >| > of IDE hard disk controllers.  Plus you a very reliable and very
> > > >| > fast disk sub-system.
> > > >|
> > > >| That's ridiculous. A $900 computer and $1500 worth of disk.
> > > >| 250GB works fine in a 4550.
> > > >
> > > >Except...
> > > >
> > > >You are not taking into account;   the importance of the data, the
> > reliability
> > > > factor and the sheer speed that RAID 5 provides.
> > >
> > > I can understand your enthusiasm for a RAID system that provides data
> > > redundancy, but do you need to run a SCSI system to do this?
> > >
> > > I have the impression from comments elsewhere in recent times that
> > > modern IDE drives are perfectly adequate and SCSI is quite simply
> > > over-priced, perhaps even over-rated, in comparison these days?
>
> > Lots of photographers run 100's of gigs and there
> > is nothing they can do to keep it smaller. Digital Pro
> > photography has been one application for RAID systems.
>
> Yes, but thats a separate issue to expensive SCSI RAID5.
>
> > Only a very elite number of IDE models have "enterprise" tags
>
> Mindless wanking. And a digital photographer is
> nothing like a typical desktop system usage anyway.
>
> > - which means they are as close to bullet-proof
> > as an IDE drive can be in 2003.
>
> Or its just more mindless wanking that
> fools like you are stupid enough to buy.
>
> > Enterprise drives are nearly the same
> > cost as decent SCSI drives anyhow.
>
> Yep, there are actually fools as stupid as you around.
>
> > It is simply that IDE works on more standard
> > and less expensive motherboards.
>
> It is simply that anyone with a clue has noticed that IDE is the
> only thing that makes any sense on personal desktop system.
>
> > SATA is another thing to look at. SATA Raid
> > is now making a strong appearance.
>
> More wanking on those last two words.
>
> > As for the HD being more expensive than PC ......
> > it used to be the other way around and back then the
> > machines were nowhere as impressive as they are now.
>
> All completely and utterly irrelevant to how much sense
> those numbers make today for personal desktop system.
>

You should be writing for Woody Allen ... except he uses the up-market
phrase "masturbation"

Are you sure you didnt go to a boarding school ?
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