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Article #335Re: SCSI/IDE and RAID [Was: 120 gb is the Largest hard drive I can put in my 4550?]
From: Cristian Croitoru
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:16
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:16
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Speaking of speed and not being particularly familiar with the SCSI protocol, my common sense tells me that having a stripe on a IDE multichannel controller can push the speed quite some way.. Again my common sense tells me that a SCSI controller can not stream data from more than one drive at a time, as only one drive can put data on the bus at the same time We have an experimental machine with a six way IDE controller with 128 MB on controller cache with six 40 GB, set as a stripe. This is solely as a work drive, as there is another drive on the main controller as system drive and yet another one for swap only, each on it's own channel. We have simulation software running on it, the machine is a dual AMD with 2 GB memory. It appears that running the model from the stripe makes the system fully utilize the processing power, while running from a separate drive shows clearly a bottle neck in the HD data transfer. Our consultants love the machine because it performs the simulation about 3 times faster than their laptops (2.6 with 1 GB RAM). The 2.5" drives in the DELL laptops are pathetic. Using an external 3.5" HD - firewire makes the system crunch the models about 50% faster. I have also purchased a 7200 8MB 2.5" and replaced a 4500 (standard on DELL) but the consultant using it found no gain from that (even a 5% decrease in speed!!!) which I can not explain. As mentioned in another mail when using hardware RAID (of any kind) I strongly recommend refraining from converting the volume from "basic" to "dynamic"; Promise controllers have the ability to use a drive as "hot spare" but if you convert to dynamic and the RAID tries to switch on the spare you will probably lose the data! I am not too sure if this is the case for SCSI as well but I have added another HD to a SCSI system and I can not make the spare to join the RAID volume, I suspect is because the volume has been made dynamic previously. I should probably read more about it but time is at a premium for me. Anyway, I thought it would be good to share this information with the people reading this newsgroup. And all (decent) comments are most welcome Cristian Croitoru "That Guy" : > Agreed. Using SCSI drives on a home system is like chartering an airplane > to take you across the street. IDE drives are fast enough and reliable > enough, especially with the security of RAID 5. SCSI drives might be a few > percent faster, but can cost more than twice as much. > >
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