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Re: SCSI/IDE and RAID [Was: 120 gb is the Largest hard drive I can put in my 4550?]

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:07
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" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3fcfb11a$0$20185$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
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> "Phred" <ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <iAxzb.6666$t87.2004@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>,
> > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
> > >"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> > >| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> > >| > Go RAID 5 and SCSI and you will not have the artificial barriers
> > >| > of IDE hard disk controllers.  Plus you a very reliable and very
> > >| > fast disk sub-system.
> > >|
> > >| That's ridiculous. A $900 computer and $1500 worth of disk.
> > >| 250GB works fine in a 4550.
> > >
> > >Except...
> > >
> > >You are not taking into account;   the importance of the data, the
> reliability
> > > factor and the sheer speed that RAID 5 provides.
> >
> > I can understand your enthusiasm for a RAID system that provides data
> > redundancy, but do you need to run a SCSI system to do this?
> >
> > I have the impression from comments elsewhere in recent times that
> > modern IDE drives are perfectly adequate and SCSI is quite simply
> > over-priced, perhaps even over-rated, in comparison these days?

> Lots of photographers run 100's of gigs and there
> is nothing they can do to keep it smaller. Digital Pro
> photography has been one application for RAID systems.

Yes, but thats a separate issue to expensive SCSI RAID5.

> Only a very elite number of IDE models have "enterprise" tags

Mindless wanking. And a digital photographer is
nothing like a typical desktop system usage anyway.

> - which means they are as close to bullet-proof
> as an IDE drive can be in 2003.

Or its just more mindless wanking that
fools like you are stupid enough to buy.

> Enterprise drives are nearly the same
> cost as decent SCSI drives anyhow.

Yep, there are actually fools as stupid as you around.

> It is simply that IDE works on more standard
> and less expensive motherboards.

It is simply that anyone with a clue has noticed that IDE is the
only thing that makes any sense on personal desktop system.

> SATA is another thing to look at. SATA Raid
> is now making a strong appearance.

More wanking on those last two words.

> As for the HD being more expensive than PC ......
> it used to be the other way around and back then the
> machines were nowhere as impressive as they are now.

All completely and utterly irrelevant to how much sense
those numbers make today for personal desktop system.
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From: "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: SCSI/IDE and RAID [Was: 120 gb is the Largest hard drive I can put in my 4550?]
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