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Article #538Re: Pentium Or Pentium Pro
From: Lawrence Kirby
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:00
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In article <31DBE0AC.202B@ix.netcom.com>
sommers@ix.netcom.com "David Sommers" writes:
>Lawrence Kirby wrote:
>[.....]
>> >And wait for a
>> >Pentium Pro built version of Quake for NT 4.0 with Xdirect video and
>> >sound.
>>
>> The only reason an NT version would run faster in normal play is if it
>> were able to use some of the features of the graphics/sound cards better.
>> This is relevant but not a 16 vs 32 bit code issue.
>
>The phrase "Pentium Pro built version" implies compiling the code for an
>application (or game) using Pentium Pro machine code instructions and
>optimization.
I suspect that most extra Pro instructions are for feature control rather
than performance. It may have some extra 64 bit memory move instruction.
Certainly procesor specific optimisations are useful - that's one of the
methods Intel used to get good SPEC results.
>The current VC++ 4.1 compiler I use supports the Pentium
>instruction set (a super-set of the 486) and also is aware of code
>optimization that only a Pentium can take adavatage of. The Pentium Pro has
>features and machine instructions beyond the Pentium that a compiler could
>take advantage of in producing an efficient product.
DO you know many applications that supply separate 486 and Pentium
optimised binaries?
>I expect Microsoft, and
>others, to release efficient Pentium Pro optimized compilers. This goes
>beyond the simple notion of 16-bit verses 32-bit.
First they should release a decent optimising 32 bit compiler for *any*
processor. Even gcc seems to generate better code than Watcom which I
understood was the pick of the DOS/Windows compilers in terms code
efficiency. ID chose gcc to develop Quake (although code efficiency
wasn't the only consideration there).
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Lawrence Kirby | fred@genesis.demon.co.uk
Wilts, England | 70734.126@compuserve.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10a33e,b16f4f368be3dd2c X-Google-Attributes: gid10a33e,public X-Google-Thread: faca2,b16f4f368be3dd2c X-Google-Attributes: gidfaca2,public X-Google-Thread: 1019d9,b16f4f368be3dd2c X-Google-Attributes: gid1019d9,public X-Google-Thread: f4d34,b16f4f368be3dd2c X-Google-Attributes: gidf4d34,public From: Lawrence Kirby <fred@genesis.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Pentium Or Pentium Pro Date: 1996/07/04 Message-ID: <836504848snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 163745253 x-nntp-posting-host: genesis.demon.co.uk references: <4rc02h$oq2@cronkite.cisco.com> <4rc1oh$osd@news2.cais.com> <31D9B338.2F17@ix.netcom.com> <836482613snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <31DBE0AC.202B@ix.netcom.com> x-mail2news-path: genesis.demon.co.uk organization: none reply-to: fred@genesis.demon.co.uk newsgroups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell,alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000,alt.sys.pc-clone.micron,biz.marketplace.computers.pc-clone