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Article #652Re: Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue (Update)
From: Class_Action
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:03
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:03
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if this mic is more than 6 or 8 inches from my mouth
at normal speaking levels, it barely picks up my voice.
the mic does not pick up my voice unless I put it
right up on my mouth.
I have to yell into my Dell provided microphone for anyone to hear
me
I seem to be unable to record anything with a microphone from SB.
Only when I shout really hard I get a fuzzy little noise recorded
I discovered that using the creative sound recorder I had to put
the record level on max, select +20% gain in the mixer and put the
mic 3 inches from my mouth or else it wouldnt pick up what i said.
I don't want to -eat- this microphone!!!!
I have my mic volume all the way up, the booster on, and its still
way too quiet. I had to practically put the mic in my mouth.
When I plugged a mic into the front panel, the volume is so low
that you have to scream.
Do you know a way to record an outgoing message without "eating"
the microphone?
I have to scream into the microphone
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:36:20 -0600, "Charles" <cb65ATcamcost.nat>
wrote:
>Hey Class_Action, got my third Dell 2 days after the post that you dug out.
>If there is a song and dance then it is one of satisfaction with my
>purchases. Chuck
>
>
>
>"Class_Action" <classactionlaw1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Charles" <cb65ATcamcost.nat> wrote (11/16/05):
>>>
>>>Three Dell Desktop computers. Gave two to the kids as I replaced mine.
>>>All
>>>computers working great. Have upgraded and "downgraded" Definitely no
>>>sound card problems...... Chuck
>>
>> The same song and dance?
>>
>> From: "Charles" <cb65ATcamcost.nat>
>> Date: 10/26/05
>>
>> Two desktops, two laptops...no sound problems. In fact no
>> hardware problems at all. Chuck
>>
>> Don't believe Dell forum moderator?
>>
>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=48561&highlight=3-16#M48561
>> DELL-Cody, Forum Moderator:
>>
>> UPDATE [3-16-04]: Information posted prior to 3/16/04 has been
>> saved and forwarded to Dell Engineering. Thank you very much for
>> your assistance in this matter.
>>
>> Thank you all for your assistance and patience in this matter. I
>> have requested closure of this case from Dell Engineering,
>> preferably with some additional data that will explain the problem
>> and/or any further troubleshooting information.
>>
>> It does not appear at this time that a hardware fix is available.
>>
>> For this reason, I am requesting the additional clarification.
>>
>>>
>>>> Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Here are the selected compilations of Dell microphone/soundcard issue
>>>> posted in the Dell Dimension audio forum. Note that the problem was
>>>> reported from the very beginning of the forum establishment in late
>>>> 1999 and continuing to this day. It makes you wonder if Dell ever
>>>> made functioning mic/soundcard.
>>>>
>>>> Despite all the numerous problem reports spanning many years, Dell is
>>>> unconscionably not only not acknowledging the problem, but
>>>> reprehensively engages in jerking around the customers with the same
>>>> runaround tactic over these years. [See the post on (1/29/2002)]
>>>>
>>>> A law firm is on the verge of being retained to file a class action
>>>> lawsuit on this issue. If you would like join in the lawsuit or have
>>>> relevant information to pass along, please email:
>>>>
>>>> classactionlaw1@yahoo.com
>>>> [the last character in name is numeral one]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue
>>>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=50332
>>>>
>>>> The link ends by Dell starting a new thread and locking it
>>>> so no one could reply, they made it a sticky post for two months
>>>> (locked) then they removed the sticky status and the post was
>>>> dropped back about 20 pages of posts to HIDE it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Poor mic pick-up (12/6/1999)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=422
>>>>
>>>> if this mic is more than 6 or 8 inches from my mouth
>>>> at normal speaking levels, it barely picks up my voice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> MICROPHONE=POOP (12/10/1999)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=495
>>>>
>>>> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEONE PLEASSSSEEEE TELL ME
>>>> HOW TO GET MY MIC TO RECORD?!?!
>>>>
>>>> I am experiencing the same problem and so are many others
>>>> if you look around in the DellTalk area. It drives me nuts!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mic recording low (12/25/1999)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=848
>>>>
>>>> My mic works but it is low. I have to turn the speakers all the
>>>> way up to hear anything recorded through the mic.
>>>>
>>>> There is something very wrong with this Yamaha sound system that
>>>> needs to be fixed and from all the people posting here this is
>>>> not just an isolated problem. When and how will Dell fix it???
>>>>
>>>> I have had my Dimension XPS T for a couple of months now, and
>>>> have the same low Mic volume as you do. I am also getting very
>>>> frustrated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Microphone (5/4/2000)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=4894
>>>>
>>>> the mic does not pick up my voice unless I put it
>>>> right up on my mouth.
>>>>
>>>> I too am having the same problem, with the same setup.
>>>> Apparently Dell needs to take some action on this problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Montego II A3D low mic volume solution!!!! (5/8/2000)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=4951
>>>>
>>>> There clearly is an issue here - Myself and three collegues all
>>>> have the same problem on brand new Montego/Dimension systems.
>>>> At the very least the factory settings are not correct and the
>>>> user is left fumbling round randomly!
>>>>
>>>> They obviously don't include a mic test before shipping.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Microphone - low input (9/6/2000)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=7947
>>>>
>>>> I have to yell into my Dell provided microphone for anyone to hear
>>>> me
>>>>
>>>> Just got off the phone w/Customer Service, they told me that
>>>> the microphone provided was provided "as a COURTESY"
>>>>
>>>> This is EXTREMELY disappointing, I expect better from Dell.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unable to record with a microphone (12/7/2000)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=9981
>>>>
>>>> I seem to be unable to record anything with a microphone from SB.
>>>> Only when I shout really hard I get a fuzzy little noise recorded
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Live Value Soundcard: Mic record level too low (1/29/2002)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=21877
>>>>
>>>> I have my Dimension 8200, Win ME, Soundblaster Live soundcard for
>>>> two months here is my story.
>>>>
>>>> I discovered that using the creative sound recorder I had to put
>>>> the record level on max, select +20% gain in the mixer and put the
>>>> mic 3 inches from my mouth or else it wouldnt pick up what i said.
>>>>
>>>> so i contacted Dell tech support they advised me to uninstall the
>>>> soundcard and reinstall it. I did that and it made no difference.
>>>>
>>>> They told me to uninstall the windows sound recorder and reinstall
>>>> it, that made no difference either,
>>>>
>>>> they told me to uninstall the whole of windows multimedia
>>>> I did that and it made no difference
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also hope you find the answer. I too would have liked to use
>>>> Netmeeting! I have a 4300 with ME and the same sound card. Same
>>>> exact problem. Dell actually sent someone out to install a new
>>>> card, no help. I also reinstalled the OS once, drivers twice,
>>>> no help.
>>>>
>>>> After trying all the things Dell suggested and that Creative Labs
>>>> suggested, Dell sent me out a new soundcard. Didn't make a blind
>>>> bit of difference.
>>>>
>>>> Well... technician came and installed new card (same type SB Live
>>>> Value! 512V CT4780).... He tried uninstalling, reinstalling drivers
>>>> etc.... all the same stuff I have tried before.... still no
>>>> better....
>>>>
>>>> Hey !!! This seems to be a DELL age old problem. I have a DImension
>>>> 4100 with Soundblasterlive 512V and Windows Millenium. I have
>>>> exactly the same problems when trying to record.
>>>>
>>>> This system was purchased in fall 2000.... No resolution yet!!! not
>>>> a good sign.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to -eat- this microphone!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Yes! PLEASE let me know if they successfully fix that problem
>>>> either through replacement or otherwise! They should just recall
>>>> that card and give us something that works if it's just a defective
>>>> card because it seems there's a good bunch of us with the same
>>>> problem!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> XPS GEN 4 - Audigy 2 zs Microphone Too Quiet (1/5/2005)
>>>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=55447
>>>>
>>>> I have my mic volume all the way up, the booster on, and its still
>>>> way too quiet. I had to practically put the mic in my mouth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low Mic Volume on Audigy 2 Zs (2/14/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=55500
>>>>
>>>> I have seen similar problems in the forums without a solution.
>>>> Has anyone been able to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> When I plugged a mic into the front panel, the volume is so low
>>>> that you have to scream.
>>>>
>>>> I have the same problem with the same computer and the same
>>>> soundcard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SB Audigy 2 ZS GEN4 No sound through microphone (3/11/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=56256
>>>>
>>>> Now a tech is sheduled to come to the house and replace the sound
>>>> card. Just what I need a 7 day old system for which I paid extra
>>>> for a high end sound card and now I'll have a refurbished one.
>>>>
>>>> As I recall on my Dimension XPST 700r there were issues with that
>>>> SB card as well. You would think they could get their act
>>>> together.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Confirmed problem with SoundMax integrated audio (5/9/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57548
>>>>
>>>> I want Dell to fix the problem in my $1500 machine! Now they are
>>>> saying it is an O/S incompatibility with the onboard sound and I
>>>> should do a PC Restore. Hello? It is still using the system that
>>>> shipped with it. XP SP2. If it's incompatible, then this problem
>>>> existed from the factory.
>>>>
>>>> A Dell tech wanted to reinstall the multimedia part of xp. When I
>>>> asked why, the Dell tech said there's possible conflict. I asked
>>>> why then Dell shipped out systems with possible -- known --
>>>> conflict.
>>>>
>>>> What's infuriating is Dell techs say they never had calls on
>>>> soundcard/microphone problems, but then later they say they had a
>>>> couple of calls, like when I asked the Dell tech shortly after the
>>>> mumbling.
>>>>
>>>> Saying that there's possible conflict without having dealt with
>>>> problem calls meant that Dell knew about the problem before
>>>> shipping. Dell techs had to change the weasel, initial "story"
>>>> about not having dealt with the problem calls, seeming to give the
>>>> impression Dell didn't know about the problem before shipping. But
>>>> then that brings up the question: Does Dell test components'
>>>> compatibility?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> microphone does not work HELP (5/14/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57668
>>>>
>>>> I just can't believe that I got rammed hard by Dell and didn't even
>>>> get a kiss from it !!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I DARE DELL (5/15/05) [DELETED]
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57678
>>>>
>>>> I dare anyone from DELL to solve this problem.
>>>>
>>>> Since getting my new system i have correctly connected my
>>>> microphone headset to the mic port on the SB card but although
>>>> I can hear very well, my voice is very quiet.
>>>>
>>>> Do you know a way to record an outgoing message without "eating"
>>>> the microphone?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> can't get mic to work on Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (5/14/05, 6/3/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57660
>>>>
>>>> After reading through this forum it was interesting to see how many
>>>> problems they have with this board, yet each support tech acts like
>>>> it never happened before. They teach Acting 101 at tech school.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> can't get mic to work on Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (6/14/05)
>>>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=58450
>>>>
>>>> It sure isn't yours. It's Dell's problem. It's Dell's
>>>> responsibility to fix. Dell put together the configuration. Dell
>>>> should have tested it. Dell should have known about the problem.
>>>> Again, why the "never heard of" charade even now -- after many
>>>> problem reports for a long time!!
>>>>
>>>> > Anyone know a good lawyer that likes to do consumer class action
>>>> > suits?
>>>>
>>>> There are currently two class action lawsuits:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.seegerweiss.com/
>>>> http://www.lerachlaw.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a fix for Dell's low mic problem? (7/16/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=59038
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen any fix. It's amazing how many people (including me)
>>>> have this problem with Dell computers and Dell seems to be unable
>>>> or unwilling to address it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Microphone on Audigy 2 ZS not recording (8/9/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=59439
>>>>
>>>> I just got my new XPS Gen 5 and can't get it to record any audio
>>>> using my microphone.
>>>> I have to scream into the microphone
>>>>
>>>> this problem has been posted on this forum for many months without
>>>> any resolution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Microphone - weak input, out of ideas... (8/29/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60002
>>>>
>>>> Dell tech support insisted I reformat my hard disk and reinstall
>>>> everything.
>>>>
>>>> It's really sad to see this problem persist for so long without any
>>>> help from Dell Support. If you search this forum, you'll see many,
>>>> many posts about this. What's really pathetic is that you were sent
>>>> a replacement sound card and told to reformat when Dell should know
>>>> by now that it's not just YOUR card that's not performing as it
>>>> should.
>>>>
>>>> I am amazed (& frustrated) with the numerous "hoops" that Dell Tech
>>>> Support had me jump through over 12 days without ever admitting a
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Your tactic seems to be to "wear the customer out" until he/she
>>>> gives up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Augiby SB ZS microphone problems FIX HERE!!!! (9/9/05)
>>>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60340
>>>>
>>>> I can see it coming, my warranty ends in November 05 and Dell's
>>>> gona tell me to pound sand.
>>>>
>>>> I tried an old Yamaha Waveforce 192XG out of my 5 year olds PC and
>>>> guess what? It worked.
>>>>
>>>> Now I don't know about you, but that doesn't make me feel good
>>>> about the $$$ I spend on my XPS system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WEAK MICROPHONE + AUDIGY 2 PROBLEM - TRY THIS... (9/18/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60572
>>>>
>>>> Brand New XPS 600 with Audigy 2 Zs. I have tried every option that
>>>> has been suggested on the forums and via Google search. I just
>>>> can't get any decent volume from my mic.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, Madam, I kindly ask that Dell take its responsibility to
>>>> make my XPS system (under warranty) fully functional.
>>>>
>>>> I think I have seen every single volume control slider that exists
>>>> in the system, XP, Creative, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I just got my machine Friday, an XPS 600 with the Audigy 2ZS with
>>>> the same exact problem all of you are having. I can get some mic
>>>> volume with everything upped but it is not exceptable.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I just installed my second Audigy 2ZS replacement card (a
>>>> refurbished one, according to the package), and not surprisingly
>>>> the issue remains exactly the same...
>>>>
>>>> I told the support that another replacment likely wouldn't help,
>>>> but what do they care.... He claimed he is not authorized to send
>>>> another type of soundcard (and did not want to put me in contact
>>>> with someone who was).
>>>>
>>>> I still think they made a change on the card itself to reduce the
>>>> mic gain because they had a lot of complaints about
>>>> noise/interference in the mic line.
>>>>
>>>> I have been through every switch, slider and control with XPS
>>>> Advanced support at least twice. This isn't a user error.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At a Loss!!!! Dimension Audio problems (10/3/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60815
>>>>
>>>> They had me do the complete restore right away, but the problem
>>>> came back within a week or so. They are going to make me do a
>>>> complete restore again.
>>>>
>>>> You're joking..... for real????? That's ridiculous !!!! I'm sorry
>>>> to hear that, I cannot believe NO ONE can figure out a problem that
>>>> many people are having.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low output from "standard" mic (10/9/05)
>>>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=61118
>>>>
>>>> I can't get the mic that comes with the computer to generate much
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> If you go to Dell tech support with the mic problem and ask if
>>>> they've heard of the mic problem, they will most likely say they've
>>>> never heard of the mic problem !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> can't get mic to work on Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (10/13/05)
>>>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=58450
>>>>
>>>> This is a widespread and continuing problem with the Dell version
>>>> of the Audigy 2 ZS sound card. The mic input does not work.
>>>>
>>>> Yet Dell is still bundling these cards with its systems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low volume microphone problem -DELL OEM Audigy 2 ZS soundcard
>>>> (10/21/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=61522
>>>>
>>>> Apparently DELL conveniently chose to delete the thread of
>>>> all customers having the low volume microphone issue on their
>>>> newly shipped XPS Gen systems, entitled: Microphone Problems
>>>> Listing (10/14/05)
>>>>
>>>> That is to me pretty much confirming the existence of the problem
>>>> but not taking the responsibility to address it. Shame on you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Low Mic Volume? (10/29/05)
>>>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=61754
>>>>
>>>> I have read several posts about the low mic volume on Dimension
>>>> Desktops with the Soundblaster 24k Sound Card but unfortunately I
>>>> haven't found any of them with a solution. Is there to date a
>>>> solution for this?
>>>>
>>>> I bought my pc for the purpose of Voice chatting that I use for
>>>> business purposes on a daily basis and would really appreciate
>>>> any fix for this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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