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Article #710Re: Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue (Update)
From: Charles
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:36
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:36
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Hey Class_Action, got my third Dell 2 days after the post that you dug out. If there is a song and dance then it is one of satisfaction with my purchases. Chuck "Class_Action" <classactionlaw1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:223on1p1d88po9hitl7v1t7d1pg92l2oh1@4ax.com... > "Charles" <cb65ATcamcost.nat> wrote (11/16/05): >> >>Three Dell Desktop computers. Gave two to the kids as I replaced mine. >>All >>computers working great. Have upgraded and "downgraded" Definitely no >>sound card problems...... Chuck > > The same song and dance? > > From: "Charles" <cb65ATcamcost.nat> > Date: 10/26/05 > > Two desktops, two laptops...no sound problems. In fact no > hardware problems at all. Chuck > > Don't believe Dell forum moderator? > > http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=48561&highlight=3-16#M48561 > DELL-Cody, Forum Moderator: > > UPDATE [3-16-04]: Information posted prior to 3/16/04 has been > saved and forwarded to Dell Engineering. Thank you very much for > your assistance in this matter. > > Thank you all for your assistance and patience in this matter. I > have requested closure of this case from Dell Engineering, > preferably with some additional data that will explain the problem > and/or any further troubleshooting information. > > It does not appear at this time that a hardware fix is available. > > For this reason, I am requesting the additional clarification. > >> >>> Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Here are the selected compilations of Dell microphone/soundcard issue >>> posted in the Dell Dimension audio forum. Note that the problem was >>> reported from the very beginning of the forum establishment in late >>> 1999 and continuing to this day. It makes you wonder if Dell ever >>> made functioning mic/soundcard. >>> >>> Despite all the numerous problem reports spanning many years, Dell is >>> unconscionably not only not acknowledging the problem, but >>> reprehensively engages in jerking around the customers with the same >>> runaround tactic over these years. [See the post on (1/29/2002)] >>> >>> A law firm is on the verge of being retained to file a class action >>> lawsuit on this issue. If you would like join in the lawsuit or have >>> relevant information to pass along, please email: >>> >>> classactionlaw1@yahoo.com >>> [the last character in name is numeral one] >>> >>> >>> Dell's Sorry History of Microphone/Soundcard Issue >>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=50332 >>> >>> The link ends by Dell starting a new thread and locking it >>> so no one could reply, they made it a sticky post for two months >>> (locked) then they removed the sticky status and the post was >>> dropped back about 20 pages of posts to HIDE it. >>> >>> >>> Poor mic pick-up (12/6/1999) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=422 >>> >>> if this mic is more than 6 or 8 inches from my mouth >>> at normal speaking levels, it barely picks up my voice. >>> >>> >>> MICROPHONE=POOP (12/10/1999) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=495 >>> >>> FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WILL SOMEONE PLEASSSSEEEE TELL ME >>> HOW TO GET MY MIC TO RECORD?!?! >>> >>> I am experiencing the same problem and so are many others >>> if you look around in the DellTalk area. It drives me nuts! >>> >>> >>> Mic recording low (12/25/1999) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=848 >>> >>> My mic works but it is low. I have to turn the speakers all the >>> way up to hear anything recorded through the mic. >>> >>> There is something very wrong with this Yamaha sound system that >>> needs to be fixed and from all the people posting here this is >>> not just an isolated problem. When and how will Dell fix it??? >>> >>> I have had my Dimension XPS T for a couple of months now, and >>> have the same low Mic volume as you do. I am also getting very >>> frustrated. >>> >>> >>> Microphone (5/4/2000) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=4894 >>> >>> the mic does not pick up my voice unless I put it >>> right up on my mouth. >>> >>> I too am having the same problem, with the same setup. >>> Apparently Dell needs to take some action on this problem. >>> >>> >>> Montego II A3D low mic volume solution!!!! (5/8/2000) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=4951 >>> >>> There clearly is an issue here - Myself and three collegues all >>> have the same problem on brand new Montego/Dimension systems. >>> At the very least the factory settings are not correct and the >>> user is left fumbling round randomly! >>> >>> They obviously don't include a mic test before shipping. >>> >>> >>> Microphone - low input (9/6/2000) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=7947 >>> >>> I have to yell into my Dell provided microphone for anyone to hear >>> me >>> >>> Just got off the phone w/Customer Service, they told me that >>> the microphone provided was provided "as a COURTESY" >>> >>> This is EXTREMELY disappointing, I expect better from Dell. >>> >>> >>> Unable to record with a microphone (12/7/2000) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=9981 >>> >>> I seem to be unable to record anything with a microphone from SB. >>> Only when I shout really hard I get a fuzzy little noise recorded >>> >>> >>> Live Value Soundcard: Mic record level too low (1/29/2002) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=21877 >>> >>> I have my Dimension 8200, Win ME, Soundblaster Live soundcard for >>> two months here is my story. >>> >>> I discovered that using the creative sound recorder I had to put >>> the record level on max, select +20% gain in the mixer and put the >>> mic 3 inches from my mouth or else it wouldnt pick up what i said. >>> >>> so i contacted Dell tech support they advised me to uninstall the >>> soundcard and reinstall it. I did that and it made no difference. >>> >>> They told me to uninstall the windows sound recorder and reinstall >>> it, that made no difference either, >>> >>> they told me to uninstall the whole of windows multimedia >>> I did that and it made no difference >>> >>> >>> I also hope you find the answer. I too would have liked to use >>> Netmeeting! I have a 4300 with ME and the same sound card. Same >>> exact problem. Dell actually sent someone out to install a new >>> card, no help. I also reinstalled the OS once, drivers twice, >>> no help. >>> >>> After trying all the things Dell suggested and that Creative Labs >>> suggested, Dell sent me out a new soundcard. Didn't make a blind >>> bit of difference. >>> >>> Well... technician came and installed new card (same type SB Live >>> Value! 512V CT4780).... He tried uninstalling, reinstalling drivers >>> etc.... all the same stuff I have tried before.... still no >>> better.... >>> >>> Hey !!! This seems to be a DELL age old problem. I have a DImension >>> 4100 with Soundblasterlive 512V and Windows Millenium. I have >>> exactly the same problems when trying to record. >>> >>> This system was purchased in fall 2000.... No resolution yet!!! not >>> a good sign. >>> >>> I don't want to -eat- this microphone!!!! >>> >>> Yes! PLEASE let me know if they successfully fix that problem >>> either through replacement or otherwise! They should just recall >>> that card and give us something that works if it's just a defective >>> card because it seems there's a good bunch of us with the same >>> problem! >>> >>> >>> XPS GEN 4 - Audigy 2 zs Microphone Too Quiet (1/5/2005) >>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=55447 >>> >>> I have my mic volume all the way up, the booster on, and its still >>> way too quiet. I had to practically put the mic in my mouth. >>> >>> >>> Low Mic Volume on Audigy 2 Zs (2/14/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=55500 >>> >>> I have seen similar problems in the forums without a solution. >>> Has anyone been able to fix this? >>> >>> When I plugged a mic into the front panel, the volume is so low >>> that you have to scream. >>> >>> I have the same problem with the same computer and the same >>> soundcard. >>> >>> >>> SB Audigy 2 ZS GEN4 No sound through microphone (3/11/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=56256 >>> >>> Now a tech is sheduled to come to the house and replace the sound >>> card. Just what I need a 7 day old system for which I paid extra >>> for a high end sound card and now I'll have a refurbished one. >>> >>> As I recall on my Dimension XPST 700r there were issues with that >>> SB card as well. You would think they could get their act >>> together. >>> >>> >>> Confirmed problem with SoundMax integrated audio (5/9/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57548 >>> >>> I want Dell to fix the problem in my $1500 machine! Now they are >>> saying it is an O/S incompatibility with the onboard sound and I >>> should do a PC Restore. Hello? It is still using the system that >>> shipped with it. XP SP2. If it's incompatible, then this problem >>> existed from the factory. >>> >>> A Dell tech wanted to reinstall the multimedia part of xp. When I >>> asked why, the Dell tech said there's possible conflict. I asked >>> why then Dell shipped out systems with possible -- known -- >>> conflict. >>> >>> What's infuriating is Dell techs say they never had calls on >>> soundcard/microphone problems, but then later they say they had a >>> couple of calls, like when I asked the Dell tech shortly after the >>> mumbling. >>> >>> Saying that there's possible conflict without having dealt with >>> problem calls meant that Dell knew about the problem before >>> shipping. Dell techs had to change the weasel, initial "story" >>> about not having dealt with the problem calls, seeming to give the >>> impression Dell didn't know about the problem before shipping. But >>> then that brings up the question: Does Dell test components' >>> compatibility? >>> >>> >>> microphone does not work HELP (5/14/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57668 >>> >>> I just can't believe that I got rammed hard by Dell and didn't even >>> get a kiss from it !!! >>> >>> >>> I DARE DELL (5/15/05) [DELETED] >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57678 >>> >>> I dare anyone from DELL to solve this problem. >>> >>> Since getting my new system i have correctly connected my >>> microphone headset to the mic port on the SB card but although >>> I can hear very well, my voice is very quiet. >>> >>> Do you know a way to record an outgoing message without "eating" >>> the microphone? >>> >>> >>> can't get mic to work on Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (5/14/05, 6/3/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=57660 >>> >>> After reading through this forum it was interesting to see how many >>> problems they have with this board, yet each support tech acts like >>> it never happened before. They teach Acting 101 at tech school. >>> >>> >>> can't get mic to work on Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (6/14/05) >>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=58450 >>> >>> It sure isn't yours. It's Dell's problem. It's Dell's >>> responsibility to fix. Dell put together the configuration. Dell >>> should have tested it. Dell should have known about the problem. >>> Again, why the "never heard of" charade even now -- after many >>> problem reports for a long time!! >>> >>> > Anyone know a good lawyer that likes to do consumer class action >>> > suits? >>> >>> There are currently two class action lawsuits: >>> >>> http://www.seegerweiss.com/ >>> http://www.lerachlaw.com/ >>> >>> >>> Is there a fix for Dell's low mic problem? (7/16/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=59038 >>> >>> I haven't seen any fix. It's amazing how many people (including me) >>> have this problem with Dell computers and Dell seems to be unable >>> or unwilling to address it. >>> >>> >>> Microphone on Audigy 2 ZS not recording (8/9/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=59439 >>> >>> I just got my new XPS Gen 5 and can't get it to record any audio >>> using my microphone. >>> I have to scream into the microphone >>> >>> this problem has been posted on this forum for many months without >>> any resolution. >>> >>> >>> Microphone - weak input, out of ideas... (8/29/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60002 >>> >>> Dell tech support insisted I reformat my hard disk and reinstall >>> everything. >>> >>> It's really sad to see this problem persist for so long without any >>> help from Dell Support. If you search this forum, you'll see many, >>> many posts about this. What's really pathetic is that you were sent >>> a replacement sound card and told to reformat when Dell should know >>> by now that it's not just YOUR card that's not performing as it >>> should. >>> >>> I am amazed (& frustrated) with the numerous "hoops" that Dell Tech >>> Support had me jump through over 12 days without ever admitting a >>> problem. >>> >>> Your tactic seems to be to "wear the customer out" until he/she >>> gives up. >>> >>> >>> Augiby SB ZS microphone problems FIX HERE!!!! (9/9/05) >>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60340 >>> >>> I can see it coming, my warranty ends in November 05 and Dell's >>> gona tell me to pound sand. >>> >>> I tried an old Yamaha Waveforce 192XG out of my 5 year olds PC and >>> guess what? It worked. >>> >>> Now I don't know about you, but that doesn't make me feel good >>> about the $$$ I spend on my XPS system. >>> >>> >>> WEAK MICROPHONE + AUDIGY 2 PROBLEM - TRY THIS... (9/18/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60572 >>> >>> Brand New XPS 600 with Audigy 2 Zs. I have tried every option that >>> has been suggested on the forums and via Google search. I just >>> can't get any decent volume from my mic. >>> >>> Therefore, Madam, I kindly ask that Dell take its responsibility to >>> make my XPS system (under warranty) fully functional. >>> >>> I think I have seen every single volume control slider that exists >>> in the system, XP, Creative, etc. >>> >>> I just got my machine Friday, an XPS 600 with the Audigy 2ZS with >>> the same exact problem all of you are having. I can get some mic >>> volume with everything upped but it is not exceptable. >>> >>> Well, I just installed my second Audigy 2ZS replacement card (a >>> refurbished one, according to the package), and not surprisingly >>> the issue remains exactly the same... >>> >>> I told the support that another replacment likely wouldn't help, >>> but what do they care.... He claimed he is not authorized to send >>> another type of soundcard (and did not want to put me in contact >>> with someone who was). >>> >>> I still think they made a change on the card itself to reduce the >>> mic gain because they had a lot of complaints about >>> noise/interference in the mic line. >>> >>> I have been through every switch, slider and control with XPS >>> Advanced support at least twice. This isn't a user error. >>> >>> >>> At a Loss!!!! Dimension Audio problems (10/3/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=60815 >>> >>> They had me do the complete restore right away, but the problem >>> came back within a week or so. They are going to make me do a >>> complete restore again. >>> >>> You're joking..... for real????? That's ridiculous !!!! I'm sorry >>> to hear that, I cannot believe NO ONE can figure out a problem that >>> many people are having. >>> >>> >>> Low output from "standard" mic (10/9/05) >>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=61118 >>> >>> I can't get the mic that comes with the computer to generate much >>> output. >>> >>> If you go to Dell tech support with the mic problem and ask if >>> they've heard of the mic problem, they will most likely say they've >>> never heard of the mic problem !! >>> >>> >>> can't get mic to work on Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (10/13/05) >>> http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=58450 >>> >>> This is a widespread and continuing problem with the Dell version >>> of the Audigy 2 ZS sound card. The mic input does not work. >>> >>> Yet Dell is still bundling these cards with its systems. >>> >>> >>> Low volume microphone problem -DELL OEM Audigy 2 ZS soundcard >>> (10/21/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=61522 >>> >>> Apparently DELL conveniently chose to delete the thread of >>> all customers having the low volume microphone issue on their >>> newly shipped XPS Gen systems, entitled: Microphone Problems >>> Listing (10/14/05) >>> >>> That is to me pretty much confirming the existence of the problem >>> but not taking the responsibility to address it. Shame on you! >>> >>> >>> Low Mic Volume? (10/29/05) >>> http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_audio&message.id=61754 >>> >>> I have read several posts about the low mic volume on Dimension >>> Desktops with the Soundblaster 24k Sound Card but unfortunately I >>> haven't found any of them with a solution. Is there to date a >>> solution for this? >>> >>> I bought my pc for the purpose of Voice chatting that I use for >>> business purposes on a daily basis and would really appreciate >>> any fix for this. >>> >>> >> >
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