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Article #170Re: Gateway2000 EISA/VLB Micronics Motherboard Problem with UnixWare
From: Jon Cardwell
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 01:28
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1993 01:28
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In article <CG7CCq.3GC@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> raz@garfield.freac.fsu.edu () writes: >In article <2blqpd$2m6@news.umi.com> jdc@umi.com (Jon Cardwell) writes: >> >>>I cannot install UnixWare from Univel (SVR4.2; Novell) because >>>(I'm 95% sure) of the strange 1K of "ext. BIOS" that the Micronics motherboard >>>is mapping into base memory, starting at 639k. This is an inexcusable >>>engineering KLUDGE that Micronics Tech. support people won't >>>admit to being a bug. Now, if they'd have just fixed it, and put >>>a newer Flash BIOS up on Micronics BBS, and UNIX would install >>>after eliminating the annoying "1K Ext. BIOS", then I would >>>be one of many, many, happy Gateway2000 customers. But, >>>this apparently will not come to pass. >>> >>>What I'm now doing, instead of just returning the machines outright, >>>is I'm swapping the Micronics EISA/VLB motherboards with the previous >>>"Anigma"-brand EISA (no VLB) motherboards. I'm also swapping >>>the Diamond Speedstar Pro VLB VGA cards with the Diamond Speedstar 24X >>>VGA cards that used to be sold with the previous 66E's. What gets >>>me a little steamed is that they're charging me $210.00 US difference >>>per motherboard (including the VGA cards) for a total of $420.00. >>>This amount for the "older" motherboards and SVGA cards that I >>>had originally wanted in the first place back in September when I >>>originally ordered the machines!!!! If you look at their ad from >>>a september issue of a PC magazine you'll notice that the "base" >>>4DX2-66E system is priced at $3,495. Well, that's the same price >>>that they are now, except that they put in a micronics EISA/VLB >>>motherboard and a different VGA card. >> >>But Now: >>Well, I ordered the older motherboards, and had to pay the 'difference' >>of $420 last thursday. The tech. support person who handled it for me >>assured me that they would get 'priority' status, and get shipped >>out Fed-X overnight. Well, I checked this morning, and they haven't even >>shipped yet!!!! I will NEVER buy another GW2k system again, even if >>the OLDER motherboards *do* allow me to install UnixWare, and not >>PANIC after the first boot disc is read in. >> >>> >>>I get the impression that this 1K "Ext. BIOS" thing is a known >>>bug with the micronics EISA/VLB motherboard, but using MS-DOS's >>>EMM386.EXE extended memory manager, the entire 640K of base >>>memory is available; therefore, the "1K Ext. BIOS" problem >>>(as seen when running Gateway2000's own QAPLUS program!) >>>can be endured for the time being. Not in my case >>>unfortunately, as I'm probably part of a minority of user's trying >>>to install UnixWare from Univel on such a system. >> >>Has ANYBODY been able to install UnixWare (SVR4.2 from Univel) >>on one of the new GW2K EISA/VLB systems??? >> >>> >>>I'm curious, is anybody else out there running/trying to run/trying >>>to install UNIX (ie; UnixWare, Interactive, etc) on a Gateway2000 >>>4DX2-66E system??? If so, what kind of motherboard does it have??? >>> >>>--Jon Cardwell >>>University Microfilms International >> >>--Jon Cardwell >>University Microfilms International > > > > We also had a problem with this setup. Ours is: > > GW2K 4DX2-66 EISA-VESA, > Diamond SpeedStar PRO VL with 1 MB of memory. > AHA-1742A SCSI board > 3Com EtherLink III 3C509 TP > NEC MultiSync 3FGe Monitor > 1 GB hardrive This sounds like a very similar configuration to the 66E's that I tried to install UnixWare on. Except I'm using an SMC Elite Ultra 16C LAN card, and Gw2k's 15" monitors. I set the AHA-1742A into "standard mode" at IRQ 11, DMA 5, I/O port 330h (which is what the installation manual wants). AFter the the 1st boot disc is read in for about 4 minutes, the pretty "Loading UnixWare..." screen resets to an ascii PANIC dump, including the 386 (well, on a 486) protected-mode register contents, and some kernel data structures (TSS stuff); then a reboot... :-( > > But our problem was different though. The machine came >with MS Windows pre-installed so we used it to test the machine. >When we ran the MS Win setup icon the machine would freeze and >a message would come up on the screen that said memory parity error. >After fail attempts to fix this problmes over the phone, Gateway just >shipped us another motherboard, a Micronics. > > This motherboard has worked flawlessly, well almost. More on that later. >We installed the UnixWare Application Server and the installation was also Oh???!!! You got UnixWare installed on one of the Micronics EISA/VLB motherboards???!!! What were the settings of the Adaptec? How much memory does your system have?? I still haven't received my replacement motherboards (after some 'phone jousting' w/ gw2k), and if there's some secret technique for how you got UnixWare installed, please share it!!!! :-D >flawless in the first try. *sigh* We were amazed ourselves. >Since then we have installed the new drivers available for the AHA-1742A board >so we can now use it in enhanced mode. Just yesterday I got in touch I have made an HBA disc for the AHA-1742A in enhanced mode also. Never made it that far though... >with someone at Novell who is working on video drivers for our SpeedStar >video board. They sent us and early release version. I installed it today and >it is working fine. If the replace VGA cards I'm geting are Diamond Speedstar's instead of the Diamon 24X's, then I'll have to call Univel about getting the drivers also... > > Now, the almost flawless motherboard. This has nothing to do with >UnixWare. When we installed the 3Com EtherLink III 3C509TP board >it kept being reported as being in a slot two numbers lower >than the actual slot. In other words, if we put the board in slot 5 >when we rebooted, the machine says that board is in slot 3. We tried >a lot things to fix this but to no avail. The ECU cf to configure >the motherboard didn't work either. Finally we gave up and >installed an SMC Ethercard Plus Elite 16 card. This one works great. >At this point we don't know if the motherbard is at fault or maybe the >3Com board is bad. If anybody knows, let us know! > > For information purposes. We also installed the Personal Edition >of UnixWare in a Dell 245SL, GateWay 386-33, and this one is the kicker >a former Souther Computer XT. Huh? Well, it used to be an XT. >We upgraded the machine to a 386-40 MHZ ISA bus by changing the motherbard. >We installed a motherboard by Mainboard. This board does not uses the Intel >chip. It uses a Cyrix Cx486DLC chip. We replaced the disk controler >with an AHA-1542C SCSI board + SCSI hardrive. Now this former slow XT >machine is one souped up worksation. All for about $700.00 > > In any case, we have used UnixWare with a lot of different hardware. >Both on the supported list but mostly on the unsupported one. >Sometimes we feel that we should be an official beta test site for UnixWare. > > --Jon Cardwell University Microfilms International
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