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Tom,

I have had the same problem on two NT 4.0 Workstations
running SP4. Once you try and change the video card, it
keeps defaulting back to the 16 color VGA driver. I spent
1.5 hrs on the phone with Microsoft Tech support to no
avail. They gave me an open case #, and are going to
investigate. On one of the systems, I was going from the
onboard video to an ATI Rage II+, and had the exact same
symptoms you described. Finally resorted to formating the
drive and re-installing (drastic, but it cured the problem
<g>). The second system had a Trident AGP card, and I was
putting in a Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro (PCI). Once again I
had the same problem. I called MS and jumped through the
hoops for them ;-), and they finally came up with a
sugestion, that I have not tried yet. They suggested doing a
paralel installation (preferably on a different partition,
but not necessary), installing SP4, setting up the video
card (it should work), and then copying over the system
hive. However, there is a "minor" <g> problem... if you do
this, you will end up reinstalling all your apps, and there
are probably other "minor" side effects <g>

Anyway, I still have not been able to fix the second
machine, and I don't want to do a reinstall so I guess I'm
kind of stuck for the moment.
If I hear anything, I will post it.

Piers Gisle






Tom Neff <tneff@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>[ I *hate* trying to read and answer questions that get
word wrapped
>into unreadability, don't you!  Of course that's how my AGP
question
>came out, so let me try it again. ]
>
>I have a perplexing problem getting a new Diamond Viper 550
AGP (16MB)
>to be recognized and come up under NT 4.0 with Service Pack
4 installed.
>This is on a Micron Millennia XI desktop with 400MHz
Pentium II, 128MB
>of RAM, Phoenix BIOS 4.0 release 6.0.  The AGP itself has
BIOS level
>1.94C.
>
>The symptom is that after following all the instructions,
removing all
>previous drivers, booting it to VGA, changing the display
type (either
>via running X:\START.EXE from the driver CD or via "Have
Disk..." from
>the display applet), all software apparently installing OK,
and
>rebooting, it STILL comes up in 16 color VGA mode and the
"Invalid
>Display Settings" popup appears.  Nothing I can change or
set or do
>changes this.  NT Diagnostics shows the driver installed,
but VGA Save
>is the active video.  I reinstalled the Service Pack and
everything else
>I could think of, to no avail.
>
>The BIOS on the Millennia is set up with Plug+play OFF.  I
am told in
>some postings that I should reserve an IRQ for the graphics
card, but
>supposedly it likes IRQ15 by itself and the BIOS SETUP
interface doesn't
>offer 15
>in the list of IRQ's to reserve under "Peripheral
Configuration."
>
>This machine has Windows 98 on another partition, and the
AGP came up
>immediately for Win98 and works like a charm in all modes
(except I
>don't get textures in the Descent 3 Demo, but that could
just be the
>demo).  Under
>98 it takes IRQ 10.  Under NT that IRQ goes to the on-board
Crystal
>audio.
>
>Has anyone seen any of this and does anyone have any
suggestions?  I'm
>about ready to start pounding my forehead, which usually
hurts me more
>than the problem. :)
>
>Happy holidays!
>
>

I've seen this too.  My XKU did the same thing when I installed SP4.  The
AGP went BYE-BYE.  I removed SP4, reinstalled SP3 and all is better.  SP4
just doesn't support the APG port correctly, I guess.

BigDog wrote in message ...
>Tom,
>
>I have had the same problem on two NT 4.0 Workstations
>running SP4. Once you try and change the video card, it
>keeps defaulting back to the 16 color VGA driver. I spent
>1.5 hrs on the phone with Microsoft Tech support to no
>avail. They gave me an open case #, and are going to
>investigate. On one of the systems, I was going from the
>onboard video to an ATI Rage II+, and had the exact same
>symptoms you described. Finally resorted to formating the
>drive and re-installing (drastic, but it cured the problem
><g>). The second system had a Trident AGP card, and I was
>putting in a Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro (PCI). Once again I
>had the same problem. I called MS and jumped through the
>hoops for them ;-), and they finally came up with a
>sugestion, that I have not tried yet. They suggested doing a
>paralel installation (preferably on a different partition,
>but not necessary), installing SP4, setting up the video
>card (it should work), and then copying over the system
>hive. However, there is a "minor" <g> problem... if you do
>this, you will end up reinstalling all your apps, and there
>are probably other "minor" side effects <g>
>
>Anyway, I still have not been able to fix the second
>machine, and I don't want to do a reinstall so I guess I'm
>kind of stuck for the moment.
>If I hear anything, I will post it.
>
>Piers Gisle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Tom Neff <tneff@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>news:659A79ED8C7BD11196A300A0C90F9D3730B7EA@milo.serviceware
>.com...
>>[ I *hate* trying to read and answer questions that get
>word wrapped
>>into unreadability, don't you!  Of course that's how my AGP
>question
>>came out, so let me try it again. ]
>>
>>I have a perplexing problem getting a new Diamond Viper 550
>AGP (16MB)
>>to be recognized and come up under NT 4.0 with Service Pack
>4 installed.
>>This is on a Micron Millennia XI desktop with 400MHz
>Pentium II, 128MB
>>of RAM, Phoenix BIOS 4.0 release 6.0.  The AGP itself has
>BIOS level
>>1.94C.
>>
>>The symptom is that after following all the instructions,
>removing all
>>previous drivers, booting it to VGA, changing the display
>type (either
>>via running X:\START.EXE from the driver CD or via "Have
>Disk..." from
>>the display applet), all software apparently installing OK,
>and
>>rebooting, it STILL comes up in 16 color VGA mode and the
>"Invalid
>>Display Settings" popup appears.  Nothing I can change or
>set or do
>>changes this.  NT Diagnostics shows the driver installed,
>but VGA Save
>>is the active video.  I reinstalled the Service Pack and
>everything else
>>I could think of, to no avail.
>>
>>The BIOS on the Millennia is set up with Plug+play OFF.  I
>am told in
>>some postings that I should reserve an IRQ for the graphics
>card, but
>>supposedly it likes IRQ15 by itself and the BIOS SETUP
>interface doesn't
>>offer 15
>>in the list of IRQ's to reserve under "Peripheral
>Configuration."
>>
>>This machine has Windows 98 on another partition, and the
>AGP came up
>>immediately for Win98 and works like a charm in all modes
>(except I
>>don't get textures in the Descent 3 Demo, but that could
>just be the
>>demo).  Under
>>98 it takes IRQ 10.  Under NT that IRQ goes to the on-board
>Crystal
>>audio.
>>
>>Has anyone seen any of this and does anyone have any
>suggestions?  I'm
>>about ready to start pounding my forehead, which usually
>hurts me more
>>than the problem. :)
>>
>>Happy holidays!
>>
>>
>
>

On Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:51:05 -0500, Tom Neff <tneff@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>
>The symptom is that after following all the instructions, removing all
>previous drivers, booting it to VGA, changing the display type (either
>via running X:\START.EXE from the driver CD or via "Have Disk..." from
>the display applet), all software apparently installing OK, and
>rebooting, it STILL comes up in 16 color VGA mode and the "Invalid
>Display Settings" popup appears.  Nothing I can change or set or do
>changes this.  NT Diagnostics shows the driver installed, but VGA Save
>is the active video.  I reinstalled the Service Pack and everything else
>I could think of, to no avail.
>

Changing the gfx driver in NT has a bug.

Once you have installed the VGA driver and rebooted, REBOOT again,
then install your new driver.  I have spent hours cursing MS until I
worked this out

Regards

Steve C
New Zealand

OR maybe the display.cpl (desk.cpl? can't remember the name) is
corrupt.  Copy from another NT machine

>Changing the gfx driver in NT has a bug.
>
>Once you have installed the VGA driver and rebooted, REBOOT again,
>then install your new driver.  I have spent hours cursing MS until I
>worked this out

I've seen similar behavior myself without changing the video driver, but
merely rebooting from my win98 partition to my NT partition. In my case,
I finally figured out that letting the machine reboot itself wasn't good
enough. Hitting the hard reset button or powering on/off seems to be
the only reliable way to get NT to boot with the "right" video driver.
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