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vtailor@gbronline.com-nospam says...
>
>Somewhere I have the impression that the time is overdue for HRH to
>either ditch the prepared speech before Parliament or add an epilogue
>of her own choosing.  I believe, for example, that the "friction" with
>Lady Di had to do with a strong hunch that Di was just a little too
>friendly and physical with selected servants, and another hunch that
>her sons didn't look particularly royal, but reminded her instead of
>people that she knwe by appearance.
>
>I am wondering if there is yet room for the Monarchy to re-assert itself
>in a way that overcomes the crazy Communists pretending to be "Labour"
>in Britain.  It may prove temporarily uncomfortable, but the question
>is whether a monarch has the right to speak her conscience and whether
>Parliament has the right to question this or demand total subservience
>from the Crown.  And, what fraction of the Public would side with the
>disloyalists in Parliament.
>
>The basic question is whether the Labourites can force illegitimate
>children into the Royal Succession without the consent of the Monarchy.

Just speaking as a political psychic, I am getting that there may be one 
or more attempts on the Queen's life, either dressed up to look as 
"unfortunate accidents" or the actions of the carefully-tutored 
"deranged".  I hope those loyal to the Queen will rally to her side in 
support.

vtailor@gbronline.com-nospam (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) wrote in message news:<9yUb9.313862$2p2.13106067@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> The basic question is whether the Labourites can force illegitimate
> children into the Royal Succession without the consent of the Monarchy.


The monarchy's worst enemies and detractors have come from the Tories.

No, they can't force illegitimate children into the monarchy; so far
as I know the last member of the royal family to have any was Edward
VII.

Jean Coeur de Lapin
atsarisborn@hotmail.com

atsarisborn@hotmail.com (A Tsar Is Born) wrote in message news:<d4f8c75b.0208311033.27cbddc2@posting.google.com>...
> vtailor@gbronline.com-nospam (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) wrote in message news:<9yUb9.313862$2p2.13106067@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> > The basic question is whether the Labourites can force illegitimate
> > children into the Royal Succession without the consent of the Monarchy.
> 
> 
> The monarchy's worst enemies and detractors have come from the Tories.
> 
> No, they can't force illegitimate children into the monarchy; so far
> as I know the last member of the royal family to have any was Edward
> VII.
> 
> Jean Coeur de Lapin
> atsarisborn@hotmail.com


Either you are badly misinformed or hopelessly naive - there have
certainly been illegitimate children in the royal family since then,
including several born out of wedlock among Her Majesty's cousins. 
Unless, of course, you are speaking directly of the Monarch even
though you used the term "member of the royal family."

rickhutto@mindspring.com (Rick Hutto) wrote in message news:<b56add8f.0209011317.20d98040@posting.google.com>...
> atsarisborn@hotmail.com (A Tsar Is Born) wrote in message news:<d4f8c75b.0208311033.27cbddc2@posting.google.com>...
> > vtailor@gbronline.com-nospam (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) wrote in message news:<9yUb9.313862$2p2.13106067@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> > > The basic question is whether the Labourites can force illegitimate
> > > children into the Royal Succession without the consent of the Monarchy.
> > 
> > 
> > The monarchy's worst enemies and detractors have come from the Tories.
> > 
> > No, they can't force illegitimate children into the monarchy; so far
> > as I know the last member of the royal family to have any was Edward
> > VII.
> > 
> > Jean Coeur de Lapin
> > atsarisborn@hotmail.com
> 
> 
> Either you are badly misinformed or hopelessly naive - there have
> certainly been illegitimate children in the royal family since then,
> including several born out of wedlock among Her Majesty's cousins. 
> Unless, of course, you are speaking directly of the Monarch even
> though you used the term "member of the royal family."

The royal family is usually a term for monarchs, their children, and
the children of their sons (who are princes of the royal line).

Which of these have had illegitimate children since Edward VII's time?
(A daughter of a daughter of a son of George V had a child out of
wedlock, and the son of a daughter of George V did so, but they aren't
princes or princesses of the blood.)

Jean Coeur de Lapin
atsarisborn@hotmail.com

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> > atsarisborn@hotmail.com (A Tsar Is Born) wrote in message news:<d4f8c75b.0208311033.27cbddc2@posting.google.com>...
> > > vtailor@gbronline.com-nospam (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) wrote in message news:<9yUb9.313862$2p2.13106067@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> > > > The basic question is whether the Labourites can force illegitimate
> > > > children into the Royal Succession without the consent of the Monarchy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The monarchy's worst enemies and detractors have come from the Tories.
> > > 
> > > No, they can't force illegitimate children into the monarchy; so far
> > > as I know the last member of the royal family to have any was Edward
> > > VII.
> > > 
> > > Jean Coeur de Lapin
> > > atsarisborn@hotmail.com
> > 
> > 
> > Either you are badly misinformed or hopelessly naive - there have
> > certainly been illegitimate children in the royal family since then,
> > including several born out of wedlock among Her Majesty's cousins. 
> > Unless, of course, you are speaking directly of the Monarch even
> > though you used the term "member of the royal family."
> 
> The royal family is usually a term for monarchs, their children, and
> the children of their sons (who are princes of the royal line).
> 
> Which of these have had illegitimate children since Edward VII's time?
> (A daughter of a daughter of a son of George V had a child out of
> wedlock, and the son of a daughter of George V did so, but they aren't
> princes or princesses of the blood.)
> 
> Jean Coeur de Lapin
> atsarisborn@hotmail.com

Of course, I was speaking of the Harewood/Lascelles who have more than a few.

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> > > vtailor@gbronline.com-nospam (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.) wrote in
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> > > > The basic question is whether the Labourites can force illegitimate
> > > > children into the Royal Succession without the consent of the
Monarchy.
> > >
> > >
> > > The monarchy's worst enemies and detractors have come from the Tories.
> > >
> > > No, they can't force illegitimate children into the monarchy; so far
> > > as I know the last member of the royal family to have any was Edward
> > > VII.
> > >
> > > Jean Coeur de Lapin
> > > atsarisborn@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > Either you are badly misinformed or hopelessly naive - there have
> > certainly been illegitimate children in the royal family since then,
> > including several born out of wedlock among Her Majesty's cousins.
> > Unless, of course, you are speaking directly of the Monarch even
> > though you used the term "member of the royal family."
>
> The royal family is usually a term for monarchs, their children, and
> the children of their sons (who are princes of the royal line).
>
> Which of these have had illegitimate children since Edward VII's time?
> (A daughter of a daughter of a son of George V had a child out of
> wedlock,

George V -- Edward VIII -- no children
George V -- George VI -- Elizabeth II -- Anne -- Peter (born in wedlock)
George V -- George VI -- Elizabeth II -- Anne -- Zara (born in wedlock)
George V -- George VI -- Margaret -- Sarah -- Samuel (born in wedlock)
George V -- George VI -- Margaret -- Sarah -- Arthur (born in wedlock)
George V -- Henry, Duke of Gloucester -- no daughters
George V -- George, Duke of Kent -- Alexandra -- Marina -- Zenouska (born in
wedlock)
George V -- George, Duke of Kent -- Alexandra -- Marina -- Christian (born
in wedlock)

Who? Marina Ogilvy? She was married when Zenouska was born. Marina and Paul
married on 2 February 1990 and Zenouska was born 26 May.

Kelly
--
What we see depends mainly on what we look for.


and the son of a daughter of George V did so, but they aren't
> princes or princesses of the blood.)
>
> Jean Coeur de Lapin
> atsarisborn@hotmail.com
>