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Fedderlyposted the Accession Proclamation:

Fascinating. One does not often see language like that in
proclamations (for good reason). Where did you find it?
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." 
out, and change "home" to "rogers".)

Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful
> and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of
> Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN,
> Defender of the Faith, Supreme Liege Lady in and over Canada, to whom we
> acknowledge all faith and constant obedience with all hearty and humble
> affection, beseeching God by whom all Kings and Queens do reign to bless
> the Royal Princess Elizabeth the Second with long and happy years to
> reign over us.

Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration emphasizes that
she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then mentions Canada.  I
suspect that if the accession had occured today, the wording would have been
rather different.   The emphasis would be firmly - and probably exclusively - on
HM's Canadian role.

-- 
Gary Holtzman

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(Gary Holtzman) gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net wrote in message news:<20020207064721.144$Ng@newsreader.com>...
> Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful
> > and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of
> > Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN,
> > Defender of the Faith, Supreme Liege Lady in and over Canada, to whom we
> > acknowledge all faith and constant obedience with all hearty and humble
> > affection, beseeching God by whom all Kings and Queens do reign to bless
> > the Royal Princess Elizabeth the Second with long and happy years to
> > reign over us.
> 
> Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration emphasizes that
> she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then mentions Canada.  I
> suspect that if the accession had occured today, the wording would have been
> rather different.   The emphasis would be firmly - and probably exclusively - on
> HM's Canadian role. 

Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.

Andy

"Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:478fbb21.0202070719.77a796c9@posting.google.com...


> Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
>
> Andy


192 days according to a the CBC.

Sean. ~

"Blessed is he who expects nothing for he shall never be disappointed."

"Fedderly" <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Welcome aboard Sir; been here long?

Neill McKay

"Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> (Gary Holtzman) gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net wrote in message
> news:<20020207064721.144$Ng@newsreader.com>...
>> Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> > Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only
>> > lawful and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of
>> > God, of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the
>> > Seas QUEEN, Defender of the Faith, Supreme Liege Lady in and over
>> > Canada, to whom we acknowledge all faith and constant obedience with
>> > all hearty and humble affection, beseeching God by whom all Kings and
>> > Queens do reign to bless the Royal Princess Elizabeth the Second with
>> > long and happy years to reign over us.
>> 
>> Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration
>> emphasizes that she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then
>> mentions Canada.  I suspect that if the accession had occured today,
>> the wording would have been rather different.   The emphasis would be
>> firmly - and probably exclusively - on HM's Canadian role.
> 
> Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
> 
> Andy

Didn't we disabuse you of those notions on the Monarchist League message
board, or weren't you paying attention?  A lad gets sick of hearing the
same nonsense time after time.

Neill McKay
(concious of what I believe is a very small possibility that you aren't
the Andy I think you are)

"Sean" <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote in message news:<jvy88.1456$gH5.32521@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>...
> "Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:478fbb21.0202070719.77a796c9@posting.google.com...
> 
> 
> > Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> > in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> > Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
> >
> > Andy
> 
> 
> 192 days according to a the CBC.
> 
> Sean. ~

That makes all the difference. Averages just less than 4 days a year.
Pretty sad when a country's head of state is only around for the
length of the average person's bout with a common cold.

Andy

andylehrer@sympatico.ca (Andy Lehrer) wrote:
> (Gary Holtzman) gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net wrote in message
> >
> > Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration
> > emphasizes that she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then
> > mentions Canada.  I suspect that if the accession had occured today,
> > the wording would have been rather different.   The emphasis would be
> > firmly - and probably exclusively - on HM's Canadian role.
>
> Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.

You make my point.  Since the many Canadians no doubt either feel as you do, or
are at the very least uneasy with their Head of State residing elsewhere, any
future accession proclamation is likely to conform strictly to the present
style of the Oath of Allegiance, for example, which expressly identifies the
monarch as the monarch of Canada.

-- 
Gary Holtzman

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"Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "Sean" <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote in message
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> > "Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:478fbb21.0202070719.77a796c9@posting.google.com...
> >
> >
> > > Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> > > in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> > > Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
> > >
> > > Andy
> >
> >
> > 192 days according to a the CBC.
> >
> > Sean. ~
>
> That makes all the difference. Averages just less than 4 days a year.
> Pretty sad when a country's head of state is only around for the
> length of the average person's bout with a common cold.
>
> Andy

I never said it made a difference, I was just pointing out your error. The
Queen is a symbol and and she has a CANADIAN representative that is here all
the time.

Sean. ~

Bog off you disloyal dog.

"Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "Sean" <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote in message
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> > "Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:478fbb21.0202070719.77a796c9@posting.google.com...
> >
> >
> > > Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> > > in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> > > Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
> > >
> > > Andy
>
> That makes all the difference. Averages just less than 4 days a year.
> Pretty sad when a country's head of state is only around for the
> length of the average person's bout with a common cold.
>
> Andy

I got it off of Schoolnet.

"Andrew Chaplin" <abchaplin@yourfinger.home.com> wrote in message
news:3C625956.F7154B5A@yourfinger.home.com...
> Fedderlyposted the Accession Proclamation:
>
> Fascinating. One does not often see language like that in
> proclamations (for good reason). Where did you find it?
> --
> Andrew Chaplin
> SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
> (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger."
> out, and change "home" to "rogers".)

Obviously, this was before the Royal Styles and Titles Act of 1953 and such
a proclamation would be worded differently today, but I hope with the same
graceful and formal language.

"Gary Holtzman" <gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:20020207064721.144$Ng@newsreader.com...
> Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration
emphasizes that
> she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then mentions Canada.  I
> suspect that if the accession had occured today, the wording would have
been
> rather different.   The emphasis would be firmly - and probably
exclusively - on
> HM's Canadian role.
>
> --
> Gary Holtzman
>

I've lurked around for a while and occasionally put my oar in.

"Neill McKay" <neill.mckay@not.my.address> wrote in message
news:pan.2002.02.07.17.37.46.262850.1306@not.my.address...
> "Fedderly" <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> Welcome aboard Sir; been here long?
>
> Neill McKay

(Gary Holtzman) gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net wrote in message news:<20020207184042.861$uM@newsreader.com>...
> andylehrer@sympatico.ca (Andy Lehrer) wrote:
> > (Gary Holtzman) gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net wrote in message
> > >
> > > Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration
> > > emphasizes that she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then
> > > mentions Canada.  I suspect that if the accession had occured today,
> > > the wording would have been rather different.   The emphasis would be
> > > firmly - and probably exclusively - on HM's Canadian role.
> >
> > Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> > in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> > Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
> 
> You make my point.  Since the many Canadians no doubt either feel as you do, or
> are at the very least uneasy with their Head of State residing elsewhere, any
> future accession proclamation is likely to conform strictly to the present
> style of the Oath of Allegiance, for example, which expressly identifies the
> monarch as the monarch of Canada.

A cosmetic change which wouldn't change the reality of having a
non-resident head of state. One hopes that a future accession
proclamation will not be necessary due to Elizabeth being Canada's
last monarch (butterflies notwithstanding).

Andy

andylehrer@sympatico.ca (Andy Lehrer) wrote in message news:<478fbb21.0202071438.64b9b532@posting.google.com>...
> "Sean" <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote in message news:<jvy88.1456$gH5.32521@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>...
> > "Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:478fbb21.0202070719.77a796c9@posting.google.com...
> > 
> > 
> > > Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
> > > in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
> > > Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > 192 days according to a the CBC.
> > 
> > Sean. ~
> 
> That makes all the difference. Averages just less than 4 days a year.
> Pretty sad when a country's head of state is only around for the
> length of the average person's bout with a common cold.

An argumnet not much different than the often "England is very far
away" used  during the Australian debate. Until, that is, people in
Western Australia, the Northern Territory, etc. started pointing out
that they were actually closer to Singapore than Canberra, and were
not likely to see any "Australian" Head of State any more often.

I assume that Canadian diplomats can spend their entire working lives
outside Canada, but their credentials at representing her are not
(normally) called into question.

Cheers,
Christopher Buyers

An excellent point.  How many times has our illustrious PM been to 
Victoria and spoken to anyone who wasn't at a Liberal rally?

Christopher Buyers wrote:


> 
> An argumnet not much different than the often "England is very far
> away" used  during the Australian debate. Until, that is, people in
> Western Australia, the Northern Territory, etc. started pointing out
> that they were actually closer to Singapore than Canberra, and were
> not likely to see any "Australian" Head of State any more often.
> 
> I assume that Canadian diplomats can spend their entire working lives
> outside Canada, but their credentials at representing her are not
> (normally) called into question.
> 
> Cheers,
> Christopher Buyers
> 

In alt.talk.royalty Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
: BY HIS EXCELLENCY THE RIGHT HONOURABLE THIBAUDEAU RINFRET, Chief Justice 
: of Canada and Administrator of the Government of Canada.

: TO ALL TO WHOM these Presents shall come,

: GREETING:

: WHEREAS it hath pleased Almighty God to call to His Mercy Our Late 
: Sovereign Lord King George the Sixth of blessed and glorious memory by 
: whose decease the Crown of Great Britain, Ireland and all other His late 
: Majesty's dominions is solely and rightfully come to the High and Mighty 
: Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary, Now Know Ye that I, the said Right 
: Honourable Thibaudeau Rinfret, Administrator of Canada as aforesaid, 
: assisted by Her Majesty's Privy Council for Canada do now hereby with 
: one voice and consent of tongue and heart, publish and proclaim that the 
: High and Mighty Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary is now by the death of 
: Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful 
: and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of 
: Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN, 

Thank you for this confirmation that "Ireland" was indeed used
after 1949,not just "Northern Ireland"!

May Unionists take power in Dublin!!!

: Defender of the Faith, Supreme Liege Lady in and over Canada, to whom we 
: acknowledge all faith and constant obedience with all hearty and humble 
: affection, beseeching God by whom all Kings and Queens do reign to bless 
: the Royal Princess Elizabeth the Second with long and happy years to 
: reign over us.

: GIVEN under my Hand and Seal at Arms at Ottawa, this Sixth day of 
: February, in the year of Our Lord one thousand nine hundred and 
: fifty-two, and in the first year of Her Majesty's reign.

: By Command,

: F. GORDON BRADLEY,

: Secretary of State of Canada

: GOD SAVE THE QUEEN

[tres grand snippements]


-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

In alt.talk.royalty (Gary wrote:
: Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
:> Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful
:> and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of
:> Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN,
:> Defender of the Faith, Supreme Liege Lady in and over Canada, to whom we
:> acknowledge all faith and constant obedience with all hearty and humble
:> affection, beseeching God by whom all Kings and Queens do reign to bless
:> the Royal Princess Elizabeth the Second with long and happy years to
:> reign over us.

: Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration emphasizes
: that she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then mentions Canada.
: I suspect that if the accession had occured today, the wording would have been
: rather different.   The emphasis would be firmly - and probably exclusively -
: on HM's Canadian role.

To make it exclusive would require a new statute...
Canada is one of the few Dominions in whose official Royal style,
last I knew,the UK was still named,not just "[name of country]
and Her other Realms and Territories" (as used in the UK and most
Dominions).
 
: Gary Holtzman

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

In alt.talk.royalty Andy Lehrer <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote:
: (Gary Holtzman) gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net wrote in message news:<20020207064721.144$Ng@newsreader.com>...
:> Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
:> > Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful
:> > and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of
:> > Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN,
:> > Defender of the Faith, Supreme Liege Lady in and over Canada, to whom we
:> > acknowledge all faith and constant obedience with all hearty and humble
:> > affection, beseeching God by whom all Kings and Queens do reign to bless
:> > the Royal Princess Elizabeth the Second with long and happy years to
:> > reign over us.
:> 
:> Thanks for this.  Interesting that even the Canadian declaration emphasizes that
:> she is queen of GB, Ireland [sic], etc., and only then mentions Canada.  I
:> suspect that if the accession had occured today, the wording would have been
:> rather different.   The emphasis would be firmly - and probably exclusively - on
:> HM's Canadian role. 

: Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
: in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
: Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.

Time to realize that Canadian nationality,
like that of any other country HM is Sovereign of,
is defined solely through allegiance to Her...
she is the most "Canadian" person in the world,
as well as the most Australian,most Jamaican,etc.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

In alt.talk.royalty Sean <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote:


: "Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: news:478fbb21.0202071438.64b9b532@posting.google.com...
:> "Sean" <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote in message
: news:<jvy88.1456$gH5.32521@newscontent-01.sprint.ca>...
:> > "Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
:> > news:478fbb21.0202070719.77a796c9@posting.google.com...
:> >
:> >
:> > > Why would you say that? In the past 50 years "our" Queen has only been
:> > > in Canada for 150 days or so. She's defintitely much more Britain's
:> > > Queen than anyone else's. Time for a Canadian head of state.
:> > >
:> > > Andy
:> >
:> >
:> > 192 days according to a the CBC.
:> >
:> > Sean. ~
:>
:> That makes all the difference. Averages just less than 4 days a year.
:> Pretty sad when a country's head of state is only around for the
:> length of the average person's bout with a common cold.
:>
:> Andy

: I never said it made a difference, I was just pointing out your error. The
: Queen is a symbol and and she has a CANADIAN representative that is here all
: the time.

And the sooner they stop permitting Canadians
to be Governor-General of Canada the better...
they are better suited to be G-G of ANY OTHER
Commonwealth Dominion!!

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

"Louis Epstein" <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message

> Time to realize that Canadian nationality,
> like that of any other country HM is Sovereign of,
> is defined solely through allegiance to Her...
> she is the most "Canadian" person in the world,
> as well as the most Australian,most Jamaican,etc.
>
> -=-=-
> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
****************************************

I'm not sure if our aboriginal people would concur with your assertion.

Sean.~

"Louis Epstein" <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in


> :> That makes all the difference. Averages just less than 4 days a year.
> :> Pretty sad when a country's head of state is only around for the
> :> length of the average person's bout with a common cold.
> :>
> :> Andy
>
> : I never said it made a difference, I was just pointing out your error.
The
> : Queen is a symbol and and she has a CANADIAN representative that is here
all
> : the time.
>
> And the sooner they stop permitting Canadians
> to be Governor-General of Canada the better...
> they are better suited to be G-G of ANY OTHER
> Commonwealth Dominion!!
>
> -=-=-
> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

****************************************

Oh please Louis, most Canadians wouldn't stand for that. I would much rather
have a republic than a foreign GG. Our system works fine the way it is and
since your not a Canadian your opinion doesn't really matter.

Sean. ~

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:23:21 -0800, "Sean" <quartz@sprint.ca> wrote:

>
>
>"Louis Epstein" <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message
>
>> Time to realize that Canadian nationality,
>> like that of any other country HM is Sovereign of,
>> is defined solely through allegiance to Her...
>> she is the most "Canadian" person in the world,
>> as well as the most Australian,most Jamaican,etc.
>>
>> -=-=-
>> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
>> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
>****************************************
>
>I'm not sure if our aboriginal people would concur with your assertion.
>
>Sean.~
>
>
From my understanding, our natives tend to be very loyal to the Crown.


Chris

"Gary Holtzman" <gholtzmn@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:20020207064721.144$Ng@newsreader.com...

> rather different.   The emphasis would be firmly - and probably
exclusively - on
> HM's Canadian role.

Well today the style is

"of the United Kingdom, Canada, and Her other Realms and Territories Queen,
Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith"

For the wording of which the Canadian Parliament is entirely responsible.


andrew

"Chris Collin" <collin@mondenet.com> wrote in message
> >
> >"Louis Epstein" <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message
> >
> >> Time to realize that Canadian nationality,
> >> like that of any other country HM is Sovereign of,
> >> is defined solely through allegiance to Her...
> >> she is the most "Canadian" person in the world,
> >> as well as the most Australian,most Jamaican,etc.
> >>
> >> -=-=-
> >> The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
> >> at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
> >****************************************
> >
> >I'm not sure if our aboriginal people would concur with your assertion.
> >
> >Sean.~
> >
> >
> From my understanding, our natives tend to be very loyal to the Crown.
>
>
> Chris
******************************************************

Some are and some are not.  As someone who has engaged in extensive
aboriginal studies (as well as all aspects of colonialism) I would argue
that most are not (and with good reason). The point is that HM the Queen is
definitely not more Canadian than any First Nations person or any other
Canadian for that matter. Despite what Louis thinks Canadian nationality is
not solely defined by allegiance to the Queen. Get real.

Sean. ~

Louis Epstein <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message news:<wST88.20438$QS5.1589266@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> In alt.talk.royalty Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
> : BY HIS EXCELLENCY THE RIGHT HONOURABLE THIBAUDEAU RINFRET, Chief Justice 
> : of Canada and Administrator of the Government of Canada.
>  
> : TO ALL TO WHOM these Presents shall come,
>  
> : GREETING:
>  
> : WHEREAS it hath pleased Almighty God to call to His Mercy Our Late 
> : Sovereign Lord King George the Sixth of blessed and glorious memory by 
> : whose decease the Crown of Great Britain, Ireland and all other His late 
> : Majesty's dominions is solely and rightfully come to the High and Mighty 
> : Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary, Now Know Ye that I, the said Right 
> : Honourable Thibaudeau Rinfret, Administrator of Canada as aforesaid, 
> : assisted by Her Majesty's Privy Council for Canada do now hereby with 
> : one voice and consent of tongue and heart, publish and proclaim that the 
> : High and Mighty Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary is now by the death of 
> : Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful 
> : and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of 
> : Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN, 
> 
> Thank you for this confirmation that "Ireland" was indeed used
> after 1949,not just "Northern Ireland"!
> 
> May Unionists take power in Dublin!!!

What colour is the sky in your universe? You probably think
Israel/Palestine becoming a British colony is also in the realm of
possibility.

Andy
>

In alt.talk.royalty Andy Lehrer <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote:
: Louis Epstein <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message news:<wST88.20438$QS5.1589266@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
:> In alt.talk.royalty Fedderly <fedderly@shaw.ca> wrote:
:> : BY HIS EXCELLENCY THE RIGHT HONOURABLE THIBAUDEAU RINFRET, Chief Justice 
:> : of Canada and Administrator of the Government of Canada.
:>  
:> : TO ALL TO WHOM these Presents shall come,
:>  
:> : GREETING:
:>  
:> : WHEREAS it hath pleased Almighty God to call to His Mercy Our Late 
:> : Sovereign Lord King George the Sixth of blessed and glorious memory by 
:> : whose decease the Crown of Great Britain, Ireland and all other His late 
:> : Majesty's dominions is solely and rightfully come to the High and Mighty 
:> : Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary, Now Know Ye that I, the said Right 
:> : Honourable Thibaudeau Rinfret, Administrator of Canada as aforesaid, 
:> : assisted by Her Majesty's Privy Council for Canada do now hereby with 
:> : one voice and consent of tongue and heart, publish and proclaim that the 
:> : High and Mighty Princess Elizabeth Alexandra Mary is now by the death of 
:> : Our late Sovereign of happy and glorious memory become our only lawful 
:> : and rightful Liege Lady Elizabeth the Second by the Grace of God, of 
:> : Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas QUEEN, 
:> 
:> Thank you for this confirmation that "Ireland" was indeed used
:> after 1949,not just "Northern Ireland"!
:> 
:> May Unionists take power in Dublin!!!

: What colour is the sky in your universe? You probably think
: Israel/Palestine becoming a British colony is also in the realm of
: possibility.

I have no desire to see that...
but counsel infinite patience until
the disappearance of the terrorist
pretense of the existence of a
"Palestinian people" (a fiction
of completely post-1920 origin that
has no function whatsoever but to
fan opposition to Israel),rather
than any "Palestinian state" 
(apart from Israel) ever being 
tolerated.

There IS a Unionist party in Dublin BTW.
(based in the city,not represented in the
Dail,that is)
Last I heard it was growing.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

Louis Epstein <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message news:<btl98.52488$Jo3.3282257@bin8.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...
> In alt.talk.royalty Andy Lehrer <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> : Louis Epstein <lepslog@PUF.FCC.NET> wrote in message news:<wST88.20438$QS5.1589266@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...

> : What colour is the sky in your universe? You probably think
> : Israel/Palestine becoming a British colony is also in the realm of
> : possibility.
> 
> I have no desire to see that...
> but counsel infinite patience until
> the disappearance of the terrorist
> pretense of the existence of a
> "Palestinian people" (a fiction
> of completely post-1920 origin that
> has no function whatsoever but to
> fan opposition to Israel)...

Perhaps, but then Israel is post 1948!

Cheers,
Christopher Buyers

> 
> There IS a Unionist party in Dublin BTW.
> (based in the city,not represented in the
> Dail,that is)
> Last I heard it was growing.

From 5 to 10 people perhaps?

So why do you advocate imperial union or federation for the rest of
Britain's ex possessions but not for the Holy Land?

Andy

As this has fuck all to do with the Canadina Military, please tale it
elsewhere more appropriate.


"Andy Lehrer" <andylehrer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:478fbb21.0202100825.26b56a66@posting.google.com...
> >
> > There IS a Unionist party in Dublin BTW.