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Re: Nature of Female TS rejection

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From: Susan M Owens
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:55
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In article <2mlk26$19k@magic.erg.sri.com> zwicky@magic.erg.sri.com (Elizabeth Zwicky) writes:
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>Furthermore, a lot of the point of woman-only space is setting up a
>space free of people who have been acculturated the way men are in our
>society. It's not just about reduced testosterone living, or a lack of
>male genitals; it's much more complex than that. The TS that I know
>best, at the time when I knew her, believed in a vision of what it
>meant to be female that was not about femininity as such, but that
>still struck me as dangerously oversimplified, and she believed that
>she was more like a woman than like a man, while behaving like a man
>in most of the ways that annoy me most. (Leaving the toilet seat up
>never bothered me that much, but being unable to find anything gets to
>me.)  Other people in this thread have had similar experiences, of
>people who thought of themselves as women, but had "male"
>characteristics that in context seemed unsettling and possibly
>unpleasant. I don't think it's fair to believe that a person who grew
>up as a man in our culture is ever going to behave like a person who
>grew up as a woman in our culture. Whether or not that constitutes
>sufficient reason to bar them from some or all woman-only space is a
>very different question, and not one I care to try to answer;
>politically woman-only space isn't something I have any particular
>interest in.
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>	Elizabeth D. Zwicky
>	zwicky@erg.sri.com
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  This brings up an interesting question for me...  Should someone like
me be banned from a woman-only place?  While I have no desire what so ever
to be of the masculine sex, I'd say I display alot of characteristics 
that have been culturally declared as Male.  While I can't say I've ever
left the toilet seat up :), I haven't been able to find my keys for the 
last month or so (UGH!).  I'm strong, confident, and not at all afraid of
men nor do I dislike men.

  I'd say there are alot of TSes that come closer to your idea of 
"femininity" than I do.   So...  What about me??  

- Susan
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Subject: Re: Nature of Female TS rejection
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