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2 total messages Started by Kathleen Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:36

#466

Author: Kathleen
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:36

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Rus wrote:

>I agree completely!  As a superficial version of this vision, I often
>daydream of a society where everyone wears whatever they want with
>no social stigma -- business suits, Roman togas, Civil War uniforms,
>pirate outfits, whatever floats your boat...  I suppose this idle
>fantasy is in fact a generalization of what CDers would like from society.

I struggled with this issue for a long time. 

In talking with non T* people about my cross dressing, sometimes some
would ask if the world were different and if I had the right to wear
anything I wanted, would I be satisfied. Often the questioner would
make reference to the freedom that women have to look as androgenous
or, in some cases, as male as they wish without people whispering
"*He* is really a women."

In the beginning my answer was yes, that would bring me sastisfaction,
but as time went on, I realized that *for me* the answer was not that
simple, that my needs would not be satisfied by such a world. That
is when I realized I was transsexual.

Kathleen

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#473

Author: Russ Williams
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:06

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In article <1993Jan23.081100.2984@fuug.fi> an2071@anon.penet.fi (Kathleen) writes:
>
>Rus wrote:
>
>>I agree completely!  As a superficial version of this vision, I often
>>daydream of a society where everyone wears whatever they want with
>>no social stigma -- business suits, Roman togas, Civil War uniforms,
>>pirate outfits, whatever floats your boat...  I suppose this idle
>>fantasy is in fact a generalization of what CDers would like from society.

>In the beginning my answer was yes, that would bring me sastisfaction,
>but as time went on, I realized that *for me* the answer was not that
>simple, that my needs would not be satisfied by such a world. That
>is when I realized I was transsexual.

Interesting method of coming to that realization!

Does that mean that you realized the clothing utopia would satisfy
some of your needs, but not all of them?  I.e., you had MORE needs
than you realized.

Or does that mean that you realized the clothing utopia would not
satisfy you at all, even though you initially thought it would?  I.e.,
you had DIFFERENT needs than you realized.

In a slightly different vein, I've observed I have a divided mind
over the clothing utopia: on the one hand, it's really annoying that
people feel such pressure to conform, so it would be nice if society
would quit hassling people over their choice of appearance.

But on the other hand, for me at least, a significant part of the
enjoyment of public CDing is the fact that it is nonstandard.  In
the clothing utopia, I'd continue doing occasional punk/slut/SM drag
but I would miss the feeling that it was weird and unusual.

Russ

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