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Article #4569Re: Articles - revision
From: Neil Coffey
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:00
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On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Dharmadeva wrote:
> An Article is a word generally before a noun or a
> noun equivalent.
This sounds a bit vague (and what's a "noun equivalent" when it's at
home?).
> Generally three kinds of articles are to be
> recognised in English grammar--
> (1) Definite,
> (2) Indefinite (General) and
> (3) Numeral.
>
> In some opinion an Article is a kind of adjective but
> some others differ from them.
Well, yes, but then in some opinion the Earth is flat.
> Definite Article:
>
> THE, THAT, THOSE may be treated as Definite article.
They certainly appear to occupy similar syntactic positions. Whether we
want to call them all 'definite articles' is another matter.
> Indefinite (General) Article:
>
> "ONE who knows French may easily learn Spanish." :
> "For learning Bengali ONE may not go to Calcutta; ONE may
> learn the same from Benares."
>
> Here 'one' is an Indefinite
> article. Here 'one' does not indicate any particular person
> but denotes a person in general.
Syntactically it behaves quite differently from 'the/that/those'. Why do
you want to lump it into the same category "article"?
> Numeral Article:
>
> "700 Bengali youths under the leadership of Prince
> Vijaya sim'ha went to Lanka in 534 B.C."
>
> Here '700' is a Numeral Article.
How do you account for the grammaticality of:
The 700 Bengali youths.
These 700 Bengali youths.
but the ungrammaticality of:
*The these Bengali yuouths.
?
And what abvout possessives? And other words like 'some', 'certain',
'said', 'any', 'few'...?
--
Neil Coffey http://ox.compsoc.net/~neil/
"Plus nous aurons de motz en notre langue, plus elle sera parfaicte"
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