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In article <1992Nov6.164638.16718@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:
>I'm just starting to learn Esperanto, and I like the idea of
>introducing a 'word of the day' to the net.  I have a question, though,
>regarding something else.  I think I know how the letters c^, g^, h^,
>j^, and s^ are supposed to be pronounced, but what about u`?
>
>--Ted Schuerzinger
>email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
>"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
>was 'Russian Vodka'."


Like "w" in English

Pierre

Pierre Jelenc                        pcj1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu 
                                    Columbia University, New York

In article <1992Nov6.164638.16718@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:
>I'm just starting to learn Esperanto, and I like the idea of
>introducing a 'word of the day' to the net.  I have a question, though,
>regarding something else.  I think I know how the letters c^, g^, h^,
>j^, and s^ are supposed to be pronounced, but what about u`?
>
>--Ted Schuerzinger
>email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
>"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
>was 'Russian Vodka'."

U' is meant to be pronounced like a short "oo" when it follows a vowel.
It corresponds roughly to English "w", and is, like j, a semi-vowel.  
Like "j" it forms diphthongs, but "u'" almost always follows a vowel.

The most common usage of u' is with "a", e.g. "hodiau'" (today).  "au'" is 
pronounced like "ow" in "cow."

A less common form is "eu'" as in "Eu'ropo" (Europe).  Pronounce the "e"
as you would in Esperanto then follow it with a short "oo."  "Eu'" sort of
sounds like the sound "airw" in the word "fairway" except you do not sound
the "r".

-- 
Keith K. Higa                         Lewis & Clark College    
higa@lclark.edu                       Portland, OR, USA
In a hierarchy each member tends to rise to his/her level of incompetence.
                                 --The Peter Principle

In article 16718@dartvax.dartmouth.edu, J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:>

> .... I think I know how the letters c^, g^, h^, j^, and s^ are supposed to be
> pronounced, but what about u`? ....

I, in turn, would like to know about the h^ and the j^.  As for the others, is
it true that:
                   c^ in c^u is like ch in chew;
                   g^ in g^i is like g  in gym;
              and  s^ in s^i is like sh in she?

                                                         Thanks
           

In article <1992Nov6.193258.27605@clark.dgim.doc.ca> krys@dgim.doc.ca writes:
>
>In article 16718@dartvax.dartmouth.edu, J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:>
>
>> .... I think I know how the letters c^, g^, h^, j^, and s^ are supposed to be
>> pronounced, but what about u`? ....
>
>I, in turn, would like to know about the h^ and the j^.  

h^ is a guttural sound like the German "ch."  Your tongue is like "k" but
you pass air through it.  The more your h^ sounds like an snore, the better.
It is a rare sound in Esperanto, however.

j^ is a "zh" sound, like the "s" in "measure."

>As for the others, is it true that:
>                   c^ in c^u is like ch in chew;
>                   g^ in g^i is like g  in gym;
>              and  s^ in s^i is like sh in she?

Correct!

-- 
Keith K. Higa                         Lewis & Clark College    
higa@lclark.edu                       Portland, OR, USA
In a hierarchy each member tends to rise to his/her level of incompetence.
                                 --The Peter Principle

In article <1992Nov8.192914.16550@lclark.edu> higa@lclark.edu (Keith Higa) writes:
>
>j^ is a "zh" sound, like the "s" in "measure."
>

I am trying to learn a little Russian. I am at the alphabet!

I think that the j^ sound is like that of the Russian letter with
the six arms, like two K characters welded back to back.

Is this from where Zamenhof got the sound?

|> I think that the j^ sound is like that of the Russian letter with
|> the six arms, like two K characters welded back to back.
|> 
|> Is this from where Zamenhof got the sound?

I'm not sure precisely what this question means, however I suppose the answer is
no, because Esperanto words containing ^J are more frequently derived from the
French than from the Russian, and ^J is the way the letter J is pronounced in
French. Certainly the choice of the symbol ^J to denote the sound seems to show
French rather than Russian influence.

However the existence of the sound ^J in Russian may have influenced his decision
to include the sound in Esperanto...