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Started by ;;;;RD48
Fri, 08 Jan 1993 19:56
Why make it so hard on yourselves?!
Author: ;;;;RD48
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 19:56
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 19:56
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Okay, I'm not sure just what this newsgroup in about, but there is a standard cyrillic ASCII character set and many drivers that will put the characters on your screen, though not in "news." This is the system they use for E-mail in Russia, through uuencoding/uudecoding. If you need the E-mail front end they use in Russia itself (Beauty Mail hacked by Moscow computer dweebs) I can get a copy to you. You might look into getting the CRS Russian lang programs from Cornell University (NOT freeware) which are compatible with the character sets they use in Russia. Do tekh por, sovetuyu ispol'zovat' takoi transkrpiptsiei. -- Gavin Helf UC Berkeley Political Science Berkeley-Stanford Program in Soviet Studies ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu
Re: Why make it so hard on yourselves?!
Author: Vadim Antonov
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:17
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 22:17
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In article <1ikm95$6kn@agate.berkeley.edu> ghelf@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;RD48) writes: > Okay, I'm not sure just what this newsgroup in about, but there >is a standard cyrillic ASCII character set and many drivers that will >put the characters on your screen, though not in "news." Well, you're not right. The "vanilla" news system i use here (cnews+rn) is 8-bit transparent and i enjoy reading (and posting to) 8-bit Russian newsgroups (relcom.*). It only takes installation font files and keyboard map to X windows. You can determine if you're getting all 8 bits using the following text: ÷ ÌÅÓÕ ÒÏÄÉÌÁÓØ ÅÌÏÞËÁ × ÌÅÓÕ ÏÎÁ ÒÏÓÌÁ which sounds V lesu rodilas' yolochka v lesu ona rosla >This is the >system they use for E-mail in Russia, through uuencoding/uudecoding. The standard is called KOI-8; the e-mail system in Russia is 8-bit transparent (i know for i did it myself) so no uuencoding is necessary. Unlike news, most e-mail software in US zeroes 8th bit in characters. The fix is trivial and any programmer can fix it in 10 minutes. >If >you need the E-mail front end they use in Russia itself (Beauty Mail hacked >by Moscow computer dweebs) I can get a copy to you. BML was written by Sergey Vakulenko <vak@kiae.su> -- it is better to get a new version from him. BML is *not* public domain, it is a commercial product. >You might look into >getting the CRS Russian lang programs from Cornell University (NOT freeware) >which are compatible with the character sets they use in Russia. There is a lot of public domain cyrillic fonts etc. Beware for there are two encodings -- KOI-8 (a standard since early '70) used mostly in Unix systems and is the de-facto standart for networking and "alternative" code which avoids using IBM pseudographic codes and therefore widely used on MS-DOS machines. >Do tekh por, sovetuyu ispol'zovat' takoi transkrpiptsiei. Replace ispol'zovat' ---> pol'zovat'sya. A small language flame :-) --vadim
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