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Article #57Re: Pupil needs advice
From: Brian M. Scott
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:00
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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:59:50 +0200, "Marie M. Moltubakk" <mamoltub@online.no> wrote: >I'm not sure this is the right place to ask, but I will try anyways. I >attend an upper secondary school, and my teacher has just given us this: >Someone has a bath tub, and it is to be filled with water. If you tap cold >water, it takes 9 minutes to fill it. If you tap warm water, it takes 12 >minutes. How much time will it take if you use both warm and cold water? >In my opinion there are more than one solution to this, because it depends >on the bath tub. (Are there one or two taps, does the water run in the same >speed or twice as fast when both warm and cold water is on?) The intended interpretation is almost certainly the one you used: that the rates of flow of hot and cold water are fixed and independent of which taps are on. >I have found one solution yet (two taps, double speed): >I set the size of the bath tub to 300 liters. How do you know that you wouldn't get a different answer if you made a different assumption about the size of the tub? In fact your method will give you the right answer no matter what size you assume, but could you demonstrate this? (Let V be the volume of the tub in litres. Then the cold water flows at V/9 litres/min. and the hot at V/12 l./min. If it takes x min. to fill the tub when both are running, (V/9)x + (V/12)x = V. Divide by V and solve for x.) >Cold water: 33,33 liters/minute It would be better to use the exact value of 33 1/3. >Warm water: 25 liters/minute >33,33x+25x=300 >x=5,14 100x/3 + 25x = 300; 175x = 900; x = 900/175 = 36/7 = 5 1/7 min., which is actually 5 min. 9 sec. when rounded to the nearest second. (Here's where you paid for not using the exact rate of flow of the cold water.) >So, it would take 5 minutes and 8 seconds to fill the bath tub. Is this >right, and what are the other ways to do it? This is probably easy for you >skilled people, but not for me... Thanks in advance! I already sketched a general version of your approach. Here's another way to think about such problems. The cold water alone fills 1/9 of the tub in one minute. The hot water alone fills 1/12 of the tub in one minute. If both are flowing, they will fill 1/9 + 1/12 = 7/36 of the tub in one minute. Therefore they will need 36/7 min. to fill the tub. Brian M. Scott (posted and mailed)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f458d,1f042cb85b7b9b91 X-Google-Attributes: gidf458d,public X-Google-Thread: 1077c2,1f042cb85b7b9b91 X-Google-Attributes: gid1077c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10d67e,1f042cb85b7b9b91 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d67e,public X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,1f042cb85b7b9b91 X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public From: scott@math.csuohio.edu (Brian M. Scott) Subject: Re: Pupil needs advice Date: 1998/09/13 Message-ID: <35fbd704.3373359@news.csuohio.edu> X-Deja-AN: 390859354 References: <6tgc6c$rqg$1@readme.online.no> Organization: Cleveland State University Newsgroups: alt.uu.math.misc,aus.mathematics,sci.math,uk.education.maths