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Article #60Re: curve
From: Remco de Korte
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:00
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Matthias Weiss wrote: > > > Suppose you have your two points P and Q. Without loss of generality, > you can put the radius from the center C to P on the x-axis, and move > Q around freely. Hence you have P=(x1, 0), Q=(x2, y2). You are also > given the arc length L. > That's a nice trick and I think it'll even work for the program I'm working on. > The center of your circle has coordinates C = (x0,0). You can assume > that x0 < x1, therefore the radius R=x1-x0. > > In polar coordinates, with angular parameter t, > > y2 = R sin(t2) > > for a certain, as yet unknown angle t2. > Hence > > sin(t2) = > y2/R > (*) > > You don't know how big R is, but that's no biggie, as > > R = > L/t2 > (**) > > which gives you with (*) > > sin(t2) = y2*t2/L, > > or > > sin(t2)/t2 = > y2/L (#) > > the right hand side of which contains only known quantities. It's unbelievable but I understand! > > (Notice that when y2 = L, ie. Q is directly on top of P, we have > sin(t2) = t2 => t2=0 => R=infinity, as one would assume!) Or rather R is undefined/can be anything. > > Now R can be computed from (**), and so, if desired, the center C. > > The whole computation can be done with P not on the x-axis, > but the formulae get a bit more cumbersome. > I think I'll skip that, if possible.... > You may compute t2 from eqn (#) using, for example, Newton > iteration. You can also try the following: Solve for t2 > > t2 = L/y2 sin(t2), > > use an initial guess for t2 (in radians!!!), compute the right-hand > side, > plug the thus obtained t2 back into the right-hand side, and see if > you get convergence. > > Notice also that, since x>sin(x) for all x>0, you must have L>y2, > again > as one would expect. > > Cheerio, > Matthias Weiss > mmshiro@math.lsa.umich.edu Thanks a lot. Remco de Korte
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,4551c9df67d75bc2 X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public X-Google-Thread: 1130d6,4551c9df67d75bc2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1130d6,public X-Google-Thread: 1077c2,4551c9df67d75bc2 X-Google-Attributes: gid1077c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10d67e,4551c9df67d75bc2 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d67e,public From: Remco de Korte <remcodek@xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: curve Date: 1998/08/24 Message-ID: <35E0A22D.E8750EFA@xs4all.nl> X-Deja-AN: 384017909 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dc2-modem839.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.131.71] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <35DE7AD6.987CA217@xs4all.nl> <35de7bb4.1339749@news.datacom.ca> <35DED085.BF8D697A@xs4all.nl> <35DF6413.42BE0E34@math.lsa.umich.edu> <35DFD6E7.F2A5DA30@xs4all.nl> <35E05F04.A7B9C968@math.lsa.umich.edu> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-XS4ALL-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 01:16:03 CEST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Soft Machine Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.uu.math.misc,aus.mathematics,sci.math,alt.math.recreational