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Re: Turkish Murderers in Cyprus

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From: rmckenzi
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:00
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i17@netcom.com (Valucard International) writes:
>
>For the benefit of people like me, whose newsreader software
>keeps the details of crossposting hidden off the screen,
>here is the list of newsgroups which this message was posted to:


[bizarre assortment of 'froups deleted], which i am unable to
continue cross-posting to, as i have the same prob. i might try
to put them in by hand, but it probably won't work.


>So, uh, what the heck is this thing?

[much of interest deleted, for space reasons - but i agree with
a lot of what you say here, particularly about how weird(ly)
evocative the images are.]

>I must say, my reaction to this story is similar to my reaction to
>discovering a nest of cockroaches in the cupboards.  It makes me wonder if
>we have some very wrong theories of "humanity" set into force on this planet.

i love posts like this for that exact reason - they're just completely
out of left field, i can't even begin to incorporate them into any
kind of rational system, but they're often startlingly poetic and/or
true. i'm really glad that you brought this up, because on another
group i saw another one that completely blew my mind, and this is
exactly the kind of conversation i wanted to be having about it.
the thread's called "JESUS - TOP NIELSEN RATINGS!!!!!! " and the
entirety of the post is as follows:

[jesus@godmall.org writes:]

>>
>>Let's post Jesus to the cross. Couple of more times.
>>
>>He deserves it! He made the world crazy single-handedly.
>>
>>That would be a top rating in book of Nielsen.
>>

-----------------------------------

is this person crazy? kidding? or what?  it's the "couple
of more times." that gets me. that makes me think they might
be serious. if so, what a brilliant fucking thing to write.
completely in/from outer space, but some kind of loony genius
nonetheless. this is why i don't use killfiles - i would
*certainly* have put "JESUS" in there long ago, and would have
missed this gem.

>Or is that perhaps the intent of this post?
>How could anyone read this post and want to visit Cyprus?!
>Perhaps you feel motivated to go and have a chat with these nice people?
>How could anyone read this post and not think "Jeez, people are sure crazy!


yeah, exactly. on top of all that, what do they _want_? as you say, 
there's absolutely no way to rationalize it, let alone take whatever 
action they might be asking for. i don't think it's intentional - 
i've seen too many posts like this that are really in all seriousness 
(*why* and *how* i have no clue) to think that it is. i don't someone 
_can_ do this on purpose. your logic has to have impaired in some way 
to produce something like this. that's what's cool about it to me, 
the fact that it really is completely _random_ . but the amazing thing 
about it, again, is the connections that are made that are beyond 
logic in some way ("spidernet") - it's like fairy tales or dreams - 
e.g., the subconscious, which never ceases to amaze me.

>Or perhaps there is no rational way to understand the origin of this post,
>and the world REALLY IS AN INSANE HELLISH NIGHTMARE.

in some ways, particularly the randomness of the newsgroups, it really
does seem like the work of a machine, but the story itself is all too
human - a child or a loon or someone whose grasp of english is none
too adept, obviously, but no program could produce the sense-but-not
quite-logical effect.

but it's too fascinating to be hellish to me - disturbing, yes,
but also sort of awesome. it blows my mind, which to me makes it
invaluable. but it is frightening to think that people have to
exist in the world of that post (the 1st one).

            >17

            ^ appropriately cryptic name for you as well! and i love your
            .sig.



                - brookes


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From: rmckenzi@kate.smith.edu
Subject: Re: Turkish Murderers in Cyprus
Date: 1996/08/30
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