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6 total messages Started by David Kohr Sun, 03 Jan 1993 23:34
Re: ignorance
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Author: David Kohr
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 23:34
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In article 702 of alt.war.vietnam jmjones@sdf.lonestar.org (Jon Mahler)
writes:
>[I write:]
>> The POW/MIA situation is overpublicized
>
> hey, right now I'm so pissed the most civil thing that I can find to say
> to you is FUCK YOU

Then the appropriate thing to do is not to post at all.

> I'll get back to you when I'm more rationial and not seein red

You should not have posted before this time.

> [you are] a person who would rather forget the people that fought

"Forget"?  Let's see, did I say the US military should stop searching for
remains in Vietnam, or that private citizens should be prevented from
conducting their own searches? Or am I calling for the demolition of the
Vietnam veteran's monument in DC, or their expulsion from VFW chapters, or
cessation of government benefits to them, or non-recognition of Vietnam
veterans on Veteran's Day?  No, I didn't think so.

> so that you and I can be here today.

Needless to say, there are a great many people in the United States (myself
included) who are more than a little bit skeptical that communist movements
in Vietnam (or Indochina generally) ever posed a threat to their existence.
-- 
Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
                   "One either has none or not enough."
Re: ignorance
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Author: Larry Jewell
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 15:59
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In article <C0AxH4.4y6@cs.uiuc.edu> drk@cs.uiuc.edu (David Kohr) writes:

>In article 702 of alt.war.vietnam jmjones@sdf.lonestar.org (Jon Mahler)
>writes:
>>[I write:]
>>> The POW/MIA situation is overpublicized

>> hey, right now I'm so pissed the most civil thing that I can find to say
>> to you is FUCK YOU

>Then the appropriate thing to do is not to post at all.


Quite right, "Shut up and sit down!"

Larry J

-- 
#L.W. Jewell Moderator at the Veterans Information Site (veteran@cc.purdue.edu)#
#& WWII-L Listowner: "Sunday's horoscope is note worthy because of its strange,#
#sudden and wholly unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all   #
#phases of life." "Your Horoscope" L.A. Evening Herald Express, Sat, 12/06/41  #
Re: ignorance
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Author: David Kohr
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 18:18
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In article <C0FwEL.89L@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu
(Larry Jewell) writes:
>In article <C0AxH4.4y6@cs.uiuc.edu> drk@cs.uiuc.edu (David Kohr) writes:
>>In article 702 of alt.war.vietnam jmjones@sdf.lonestar.org (Jon Mahler)
>>writes:
>>>hey, right now I'm so pissed the most civil thing that I can find to say
>>>to you is FUCK YOU
>
>>Then the appropriate thing to do is not to post at all.
>
>Quite right, "Shut up and sit down!"
>
>Larry J

Are you accusing me of some kind of censorship, Larry?

There are very good reasons not to direct pure obscenities and outright
condemnations at other participants in a USENET discussion.  Some of us
have better things to do than take part in an on-line shouting match.
-- 
Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
                   "One either has none or not enough."
Re: Trivia Contest Time Kids...
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Author: David Kohr
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 23:28
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In article <1993Jan6.190831.2329@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux,
just drieux) writes:
>Are these same 'great many people' in the USA, also:
>
>1. The Same folks who voted to return the people who voted for the Gulf of
>Tonkien Resolution?
>
>2. The Same folks who voted out of office the only two congrecritters who
>were 'pinko' enough to vote against the Gulf of Tonkien Resolution?

The key in each case is the term "vote": I said a "great many people", not
a "majority" (which determines the result of a vote).  But of course drieux
can't be bothered with such logical niceties, and prefers to reply to the
imagined rather than actual contents of my posting.

>3. The Same folks who understand that hunger in Somalia is Not a Direct
>threat to the USA.... and are all avoiding the minor matter of the War
>Powers Act right now....

This has nothing to do with any "Communist threat", but far be it from me
to point out a major _non sequitur_ on drieux's part.

>ps: not that I would EVER suggest that there are Historical Revisionists
>in our midst.

Not that I would ever suggest that drieux's postings are riddled with
obvious, serious logical errors.

Based on his cross-posting of his article to talk.politics.misc, it seems
fair to judge that drieux is much more interested in participating in a
mindless flame-war than an intelligent discussion.
-- 
Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
                   "One either has none or not enough."
Re: ignorance
#397
Author: Larry Jewell
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 11:31
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In article <C0G2u9.9ou@cs.uiuc.edu> drk@cs.uiuc.edu (David Kohr) writes:

>Are you accusing me of some kind of censorship, Larry?

Certainly not!  Just because you want to dictate what should and should
not be discussed concerning the MIA/POW issue and you wish to limit the
amount of coverage given to the issue doesn't make me thing you wish to
censor anyone.

The original poster of "ignorance" expressed a lot of honest anger, not
directed at you specifically, but at the people who follow the "party
line" and want to just forget about the men left behind.  You may profess
to a concern for those men, but you are urging that less the the maximum
effort be made to try and get them back.  What I don't understand is
why you are even reading this group?  Got a little Rambo-complex?

Larry J
>
>There are very good reasons not to direct pure obscenities and outright
>condemnations at other participants in a USENET discussion.  Some of us
>have better things to do than take part in an on-line shouting match.
>-- 
>Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
>                   "One either has none or not enough."


-- 
#L.W. Jewell Moderator at the Veterans Information Site (veteran@cc.purdue.edu)#
#& WWII-L Listowner: "Sunday's horoscope is note worthy because of its strange,#
#sudden and wholly unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all   #
#phases of life." "Your Horoscope" L.A. Evening Herald Express, Sat, 12/06/41  #
Re: ignorance
#398
Author: Monte Olsen
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 18:54
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In article <C0GH84.IGy@cs.uiuc.edu> David Kohr, drk@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>
>Based on his cross-posting of his article to talk.politics.misc, it seems
>fair to judge that drieux is much more interested in participating in a
>mindless flame-war than an intelligent discussion.
>-- 


Dave,
This is in response to your private Email. 

Judging by the previous post, it's fairly obvious to me that the mindless
appelation should fall on your shoulders, not Drieux's. Isn't it
interesting that each time he asks you to think beyond the boundaries you
seem to have established for your own, narrow, little mind, you take
umbrage.

Why don't you grow up, mature a little or shut up.

Monte
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