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Article #130Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?
From: MEB
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:57
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:57
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Rod Speed wrote: > Greg wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> wrote: >> >>> Sniped >>> >>> This is like trying to explain this to my mother. >>> >>> Windows full installation Oem operating disk (Not system builders) >>> can be sold with hardware, as long a the disk has not been >>> installed. So, me buying or selling an OEM xp off of EBAY or Amazon >>> is perfectly legal as long as it has not be installed. >>> >>> >>> What cant be sold or given away except with transfer of a computer is >>> Oems upgrade disk >>> Oems that have been installed. >>> Oems that have Windows Vista or W7 >>> >>> Where I got that information, is from a MVP in the windows xp >>> newsgroup. I do tend to believe a MVP. >>> >>> >>> Greg >> >> One additional comment. I was referring to buying and selling in the >> U.S. >> >> In Canada, it was ruled that OEMs can be sold without hardware and it >> can be sold as used. It has to do with a law that is passed in >> 90's. I think Microsoft is still trying to challenge that law. >> The law basically says anything you buy, it yours to do with what you >> please, it even allows them to install the OEM on more that one >> computer. I don't have any links to this. This is what I read. >> Maybe a Canadian citizen reading this can fill us in more on the law, >> I am referring about. > > And there doesnt have to be a specific law either. By default you are > welcome to sell what you legally own and if a particular jurisdiction wants > to cancel that common law right, it needs specific legislation that does that. > > I'm not aware of even a single first or second world country that has done that. > > Got several modifiers to the above comment to consider, in addition to the prior materials: Free Trade Agreements IPO Treaties BSA IMSTA The Congressional International Anti-Piracy Caucus SPA ACCS CISG - http://www.law-counsel.com/Legal_information/contract_law/ WTO UCC http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/private.international.commercial.law/contract.principles.html CRIA Canadian Copyright Act CAAST ESAC http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219652.stm the recent French piracy Law http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?uri=%2F&scope=all&go=toolbar&q=piracy So when you indicate that you know of no "first or second world country" doing that, I have to wonder... -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___---
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:57:16 -0400 From: MEB <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal? References: <#ND$wJ0OKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <ua%tm.42159$ze1.13123@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <OlzAU24OKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <h9bn51$n5m$1@aioe.org> <9R3vm.43045$ze1.39902@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ucarn8fPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <ugRhrMgPKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <7i4vpiF301h65U1@mid.individual.net> <4ABD5BBF.92E16043@Guy.com> <7i56vqF2tmoa6U1@mid.individual.net> <4ABD704E.AC67E885@Guy.com> <7i6kjtF30lhvsU1@mid.individual.net> <7i6m5hF2vub3hU1@mid.individual.net> <7i77sgF8humtU1@mid.individual.net> In-Reply-To: <7i77sgF8humtU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <O3cJ9QwPKHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,aus.computers NNTP-Posting-Host: oh-76-2-218-41.dhcp.embarqhsd.net 76.2.218.41 Lines: 1 Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!msrtrans!TK2MSFTFEEDS02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl