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Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?

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From: MEB
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:57
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Rod Speed wrote:
> Greg wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:52:57 -0400, Greg <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Sniped
>>>
>>> This is like trying to explain this to my mother.
>>>
>>> Windows full installation Oem operating disk (Not system builders)
>>> can be sold with hardware,  as long a the disk has not been
>>> installed. So, me buying or selling an OEM xp off of EBAY or Amazon
>>> is perfectly legal as long as it has not be installed.
>>>
>>>
>>> What cant be sold or given away except with transfer of a computer is
>>> Oems upgrade disk
>>> Oems that have been installed.
>>> Oems that have Windows Vista or W7
>>>
>>> Where I got that information,  is from a MVP in the windows xp
>>> newsgroup.  I do tend to believe a MVP.
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>
>> One additional comment.  I was referring to buying and selling in the
>> U.S.
>>
>> In Canada, it was ruled that OEMs can be sold without hardware and it
>> can be sold as used.    It has to do with a law that is passed in
>> 90's.    I think Microsoft is still trying to challenge that law.
>> The law basically says anything you buy,  it yours to do with what you
>> please, it even allows them to install the OEM on more that one
>> computer.   I don't have any links to this.    This is what I read.
>> Maybe a Canadian citizen reading this can fill us in more on the law,
>> I am referring about.
> 
> And there doesnt have to be a specific law either. By default you are
> welcome to sell what you legally own and if a particular jurisdiction wants
> to cancel that common law right, it needs specific legislation that does that.
> 
> I'm not aware of even a single first or second world country that has done that. 
> 
> 

 Got several modifiers to the above comment to consider, in addition to
the prior materials:

Free Trade Agreements
IPO
Treaties
BSA
IMSTA
The Congressional International Anti-Piracy Caucus
SPA
ACCS
CISG - http://www.law-counsel.com/Legal_information/contract_law/
WTO
UCC
http://www.jus.uio.no/lm/private.international.commercial.law/contract.principles.html
CRIA
Canadian Copyright Act
CAAST
ESAC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8219652.stm
the recent French piracy Law
http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?uri=%2F&scope=all&go=toolbar&q=piracy

 So when you indicate that you know of no "first or second world
country" doing that, I have to wonder...

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