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MEB wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs filters here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> damn well please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (people who are actually using usenet, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's dumbed down web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distinct from a web based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either a Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download FROM the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument is without basis, its still basically the web
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the old style BBS recovery. Or is it you think it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just magically appears on your computer...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written word? What part of my  "No internet browser is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> required to access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magically appears on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>>>>>>>> addressing the SAME forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>>>>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this
>>>>>>>>>>>> message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms web and
>>>>>>>>>> Internet interchangably.   Think Internet as being a
>>>>>>>>>> connection of multiple networks and the WWW as being an
>>>>>>>>>> application or protocol which runs on top of the Internet,
>>>>>>>>>> as does SMTP, NNTP, FTP and others.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the
>>>>>>>>> Internet", which is referred to generally as the Web,
>>>>>>>>> determines what occurs. Without them there is none, not the
>>>>>>>>> Internet or the Web, regardless of the term used. Throw in an
>>>>>>>>> application, and all the broadcasts, IPs, and other become a
>>>>>>>>> usable presentation. The basic difference? The application and
>>>>>>>>> protocol.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and
>>>>>>>>> their usage, e.g., the application used to connect to the
>>>>>>>>> Web/Internet USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the
>>>>>>>>> method, it still remains the Web/Internet, only the
>>>>>>>>> application and resultant protocol used changes [as do ports
>>>>>>>>> and other aspects, but that is a different discussion]. The
>>>>>>>>> actual stream [Internet/Web] carries multiple protocols
>>>>>>>>> within it; it is the application [and whatever local and
>>>>>>>>> distant other requirements need] that determines the
>>>>>>>>> "connection" to whatever offered.
>>>>>>>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are
>>>>>>>> interchangable. They arent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>>>>>> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from
>>>>>> You can see that in the headers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and via what [and I don't mean the app used]?
>>>>>> NNTP. Nothing to do with the web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The Internet is an internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Web is a web.
>>>>> The NTTP servers are on the Internet.
>>>> But have absolutely nothing to do with any web.
>>>>
>>>>> The Web is on the Internet.
>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>> web.
>>>>
>>>>> An intranet may contain an NNTP server and not connect to the
>>>>> Internet.
>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>> web.
>>>>
>>>>> A web may contain messages from a news group.
>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>> web.
>>>>
>>>>> The Web may contain messages from Usenets, Forums, private
>>>>> internets or intranets, News, newsgroups, and news postings.
>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>> web.
>>>>
>>>>> The Internet contains webs, the Web, newsgroups, News servers,
>>>>> http servers, etc...
>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>> web.
>>>>
>>>>> Now split them from each other...
>>>> Just did.
>>>>
>>>>> its a ludicrous argument...
>>>> Your sig is sposed to be last, with a line with just -- on it in
>>>> front of it.
>>>>
>>>>> the world changes and so does how its perceived.
>>>> Irrelevant to whether any NNTP server has anything to do with any
>>>> web.
>>>>
>>>>> Just one more attempt to make Usenet something special...
>>>> Nope, just rubbing your pig ignorant nose in the FACT that an NNTP
>>>> server has nothing to do with any web.
>>>>
>>>>> it was originally, now is another matter.
>>>> Wrong, as always.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well you may have your personal chance to do exactly that, prove me
>>> wrong.
>>
>> Just did.
>>
>>> Of course it will take more than the normal Usenet crap. Your going
>>> to have to post info, liks, and all the things required to do so.
>>
>> Wrong, as always.
>>
>>> What YOU posted means squat.
>>
>> You in spades, child.

> Ah yeah... you didn't ... you couldn't ... and you never will.

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, child.

> So have you ever done anything in your life worth having you on the planet for?

You in spades, child.