Article View: alt.windows98
Article #173Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?
From: 98 Guy
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:53
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:53
52 lines
4284 bytes
4284 bytes
Jeff Richards wrote: > There are two important things you need to be aware of about OEM > software > > 1. If a vendor is selling it without hardware, they are in breach > of their agreement with MS. The vendor in question may have no agreement with MS, so what then? There may be no real violation in that situation. Assuming that the OEM product is "real" (and not counterfeit or a cloned copy) and assuming that it's product key has not yet been used, then there's no real violation of "law" if a vendor sells it to an end user, and the end user installs it on his computer. Only that last step, where the end user must agree to the terms of the EULA, constitutes anything resembling a binding legal contract between the end user and Microsoft. Just because Microsoft might slap a sticker with the wording "Not for retail sale" or "not for resale" or "For installation only by OEM's onto new hardware" doesn't mean that law enforcement have a green light to look for people violating those terms. Microsoft might slap a sticker on their software that says "Not to be used to access the websites Apple.com or Google.com". Does that mean law enforcement, the police and courts can automatically investigate and charge people for violating those terms, just because Microsoft wrote them on the product packaging? Can laws be created that easily, just be writing something somewhere? If I rent a car, and the rental terms stipulate that I'm restricted from driving the car to another state, and if I do, and if for some reason I'm stopped by the police in that other state (maybe for speeding), will the police also charge me for violating the terms of my rental contract? When it comes to OEM licenses (the license that comes with your typical mass-market PC), clearly Microsoft has negotiated the prices, delivery and usage terms for those licenses with the computer maker. The intent is that the computer maker is supposed to install the software and attach the license to the computers as they come off the assembly line. If the computer maker has determined that they have a surplus of those licenses, and no recourse to return them to Microsoft for a full refund, then it's understandable that those licences (and any associated physical installation media) will find it's way to the outside world via resellers and other agents. Microsoft has (in theory) legal recourse against the computer maker for violating the original terms of the purchase of those licenses, and the legal recourse would be a civil matter (not criminal). Beyond that, I can't imagine that the police have a legal basis to declare the licenses as "stolen", or have any basis to lay a criminal charge against anyone caught with them or trying to sell or buy them.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<4ABE1CC1.5AE44207@Guy.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!not-for-mailReferences:
<7hqrujF2u4vm3U1@mid.individual.net> <uDANYUzOKHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> <7hr1tjF2uqelkU1@mid.individual.net> <#ND$wJ0OKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <ua%tm.42159$ze1.13123@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <OlzAU24OKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <h9bn51$n5m$1@aioe.org> <9R3vm.43045$ze1.39902@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ucarn8fPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <ugRhrMgPKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <7i4vpiF301h65U1@mid.individual.net> <4ABD5BBF.92E16043@Guy.com> <7i56vqF2tmoa6U1@mid.individual.net> <e26HLOlPKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: f3008de57b,1b7257b35b01d6be X-Google-Attributes: gidf3008de57b,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!not-for-mail From: 98 Guy <98@Guy.com> Newsgroups: alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,aus.computers Subject: Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal? Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:53:05 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 52 Message-ID: <4ABE1CC1.5AE44207@Guy.com> References: <7hqrujF2u4vm3U1@mid.individual.net> <uDANYUzOKHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl> <7hr1tjF2uqelkU1@mid.individual.net> <#ND$wJ0OKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> <ua%tm.42159$ze1.13123@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <OlzAU24OKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <h9bn51$n5m$1@aioe.org> <9R3vm.43045$ze1.39902@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <ucarn8fPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> <ugRhrMgPKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> <7i4vpiF301h65U1@mid.individual.net> <4ABD5BBF.92E16043@Guy.com> <7i56vqF2tmoa6U1@mid.individual.net> <e26HLOlPKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl> NNTP-Posting-Host: LanlDVNifBcF0g4mo97azA.user.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:n1l3geTIm/290OhKv+1PTs+sHr4=