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Oldus Fartus wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Sunny wrote:
>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs *filters* here {so do many of the transfer
>>>>>>>>>> points},
>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they damn well
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority (people who are
>>>>>>>>> actually using usenet, not Microsoft's dumbed down web based
>>>>>>>>> forums).
>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct from a web
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without either a Internet
>>>>>> interfaced newsreader, or via direct download FROM the Internet or
>>>>>> its
>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your argument is
>>>>>> without basis, its still basically the web or the old style BBS
>>>>>> recovery. Or is it you think it just magically appears on your
>>>>>> computer...
>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the written word?
>>>>> What part of my  "No internet browser is required to access any news
>>>>> server" don't you understand?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just magically
>>>>> appears on
>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER addressing the
>>>> *SAME* forum don't you understand or do you think the messages just
>>>> magically appear in your reader...
>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this message on
>>> Usenet, you goose.
>>>
>>
>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>
> 
> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms *web* and *Internet*
> interchangably.   Think Internet as being a connection of multiple
> networks and the WWW as being an application or protocol which runs on
> top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP, FTP and others.
> 

 Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the Internet", which
is referred to generally as the Web, determines what occurs. Without
them there is none, not the Internet or the Web, regardless of the term
used. Throw in an application, and all the broadcasts, IPs, and other
become a usable presentation. The basic difference? The application and
protocol.

 The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and their
usage, e.g., the *application* used to connect to the Web/Internet USING
a specific protocol. Regardless of the method, it still remains the
Web/Internet, only the application and resultant protocol used changes
[as do ports and other aspects, but that is a different discussion]. The
actual stream [Internet/Web] carries multiple protocols within it; it is
the application [and whatever local and distant other requirements need]
that determines the "connection" to whatever offered.

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