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Article #190Re: License discussion was How do you to tell if you windows 98se is legal?
From: Clocky
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:15
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:15
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MEB wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> MEB wrote:
>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah, Microsoft runs *filters* here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"? This is usenet. Microsoft can do what they damn
>>>>>>>>>>>> well please
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority (people
>>>>>>>>>>>> who are actually using usenet, not Microsoft's dumbed down
>>>>>>>>>>>> web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct from
>>>>>>>>>> a web based
>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news server.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without either a
>>>>>>>>> Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct download FROM
>>>>>>>>> the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your argument
>>>>>>>>> is without basis, its still basically the web or the old style
>>>>>>>>> BBS recovery. Or is it you think it just magically appears on
>>>>>>>>> your computer...
>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the written
>>>>>>>> word? What part of my "No internet browser is required to
>>>>>>>> access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just magically
>>>>>>>> appears on
>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>> addressing the *SAME* forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this
>>>>>> message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>
>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>
>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms *web* and
>>>> *Internet* interchangably. Think Internet as being a connection
>>>> of multiple networks and the WWW as being an application or
>>>> protocol which runs on top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP,
>>>> FTP and others.
>>>>
>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the Internet",
>>> which is referred to generally as the Web, determines what occurs.
>>> Without them there is none, not the Internet or the Web, regardless
>>> of the term used. Throw in an application, and all the broadcasts,
>>> IPs, and other become a usable presentation. The basic difference?
>>> The application and protocol.
>>>
>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and their
>>> usage, e.g., the *application* used to connect to the Web/Internet
>>> USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the method, it still
>>> remains the Web/Internet, only the application and resultant
>>> protocol used changes [as do ports and other aspects, but that is a
>>> different discussion]. The actual stream [Internet/Web] carries
>>> multiple protocols within it; it is the application [and whatever
>>> local and distant other requirements need] that determines the
>>> "connection" to whatever offered.
>>
>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are interchangable.
>> They arent.
>>
>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>
>>
>
> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from and via what [and I
> don't mean the app used]?
NNTP server, why?
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