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Clocky wrote:
> MEB wrote:
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> MEB wrote:
>>>> Oldus Fartus wrote:
>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23PpvN5nPKHA.4244@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23w3tGmnPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23nRz5TnPKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MEB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ah, Microsoft runs *filters* here {so do many of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transfer points},
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your post didn't make it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Here"?  This is usenet.  Microsoft can do what they damn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well please
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their server, makes no difference to the majority (people
>>>>>>>>>>>>> who are actually using usenet, not Microsoft's dumbed down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> web based forums).
>>>>>>>>>>>> No here, on the master for the forum via NNTP.
>>>>>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, even Microsoft calls it a "newsgroup" as distinct from
>>>>>>>>>>> a web based
>>>>>>>>>>> "forum"
>>>>>>>>>>> There is no such thing as a "master" on Usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>> No internet browser is required to access any news server.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wrong, and WE did this before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You sure aren't going to get the newsgroups without either a
>>>>>>>>>> Internet interfaced newsreader, or via direct download FROM
>>>>>>>>>> the Internet or its
>>>>>>>>>> equivalent and some text based alternative... so your argument
>>>>>>>>>> is without basis, its still basically the web or the old style
>>>>>>>>>> BBS recovery. Or is it you think it just magically appears on
>>>>>>>>>> your computer...
>>>>>>>>> You are so pedantic, yet you don't seem to absorb the written
>>>>>>>>> word? What part of my  "No internet browser is required to
>>>>>>>>> access any news server" don't you understand?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about you jam your smartarse "you think it just magically
>>>>>>>>> appears on
>>>>>>>>> your computer..."
>>>>>>>>> where the sun don't shine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What part of you're using an INTERNET BASED NEWSREADER
>>>>>>>> addressing the *SAME* forum don't you understand or do you
>>>>>>>> think the messages just magically appear in your reader...
>>>>>>> My "BROWSER" is not open or ACTIVE while I am sending this
>>>>>>> message on Usenet, you goose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> NO but your web based newsreader IS, ya duck..
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are spoiling your arguments by using the terms *web* and
>>>>> *Internet* interchangably.   Think Internet as being a connection
>>>>> of multiple networks and the WWW as being an application or
>>>>> protocol which runs on top of the Internet, as does SMTP, NNTP,
>>>>> FTP and others.
>>>>>
>>>> Not really, the protocols used, the "what makes up the Internet",
>>>> which is referred to generally as the Web, determines what occurs.
>>>> Without them there is none, not the Internet or the Web, regardless
>>>> of the term used. Throw in an application, and all the broadcasts,
>>>> IPs, and other become a usable presentation. The basic difference?
>>>> The application and protocol.
>>>>
>>>> The issue and misunderstanding seems to be the protocols and their
>>>> usage, e.g., the *application* used to connect to the Web/Internet
>>>> USING a specific protocol. Regardless of the method, it still
>>>> remains the Web/Internet, only the application and resultant
>>>> protocol used changes [as do ports and other aspects, but that is a
>>>> different discussion]. The actual stream [Internet/Web] carries
>>>> multiple protocols within it; it is the application [and whatever
>>>> local and distant other requirements need] that determines the
>>>> "connection" to whatever offered.
>>> You keep implying that the terms Web/Internet are interchangable.
>>> They arent.
>>>
>>> usenet has NOTHING to do with the web.
>>>
>>>
>> Ok, so where are you receiving the newsgroups from and via what [and I
>> don't mean the app used]?
> 
> NNTP server, why?
> 
> 

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