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Greg wrote:

> I was defending you.    These are not my words.    These are a MVP
> words.

If you were quoting what an MVP said, and quoting him exactly, then
where did the MVP post that material?

It is extremely poorly written, grammatically speaking.

> Let me see if I can explain this.
> 
> New windows Oems operating system (Except Vista and w7) can be
> sold with Hardware.

A better way to say that:

New computers that have some version of windows pre-installed on them
will have what's known as an "OEM" version.  OEM versions of Windows are
(according to their license terms) limited to be used only on the
original computer hardware that was purchased by an end-user.  Microsoft
defines "computer hardware" to be the motherboard of the computer.  Any
or all other components can change, but the motherboard can not be
changed, as that would constitute a new or different computer.  If the
original motherboard fails, then Microsoft does allow the motherboard to
be replaced *by an exact duplicate* without violating the Windows OEM
license.

> Used Oems operating systems can not be sold at all.

OEM copies (or licenses) of Windows are sold to mass-market system
builders at a large discount for incorporation into new computers.  The
trade-off for the low cost is that the end-user can't transfer the
license to another computer, or sell that license to someone else.  The
end-user can only sell the entire computer to someone else, and they
must not retain any copy of the OS (assuming such a copy came with the
computer when it was originally purchased).

So the end user is "not supposed to" sell their OEM copy of windows, or
use the OEM license or product key to install Windows on another
computer.  Whether or not someone can actually do that if they really
wanted to - is another question.

> New Oems can be installed on any computer. 

The use of the term "New Oem" needs clarification.  There are *specific*
types of Windows licenses or products that can be installed on "any
computer".  Strictly speaking, most people are aware of (and actually
have) an OEM version that can't be "installed on any computer".  

For most people, the version of Windows that could be installed on any
computer is known as the "Retail" version.  There is yet another type of
Windows - known as a "System Builder" version, that is somewhere between
a Retail and OEM version.  The System Builder version is a form or type
of OEM version, but it has not yet been installed on any computer. 
Small-scale computer builders buy the System Builder version and can
install it on ONE computer.  Once it's installed on that ONE computer,
it can't be separated from the computer and re-sold by itself by the
end-user.

> Oems are tied to the computer once they are installed,
> stay with the computer,  not necessarily the person or
> business. 

That is true, as explained above.

> (MEB,  I am not talking about large companies or big
> businesses.)

Meb thinks that all licenses are either volume or developer, and he
argues from that point of view.

> MVP,  Are assigned by Microsoft.   So they should know what
> they are talking about.

MVP's are appologists and psycophants for Microsoft.  They derive their
living by supplying technical services to people to fix their
Microsoft-related problems.  They have a vested interest in the
complexities, idiosyncracies, vulnerabilities and other problems that
are built into various Microsoft products.  MVP's are largely not
critical of Microsoft's business practices or their products - in fact
they depend on Microsoft's forced obsolesence model and they promote
upgrading their clients to the latest versions of Microsoft products as
they become available, knowing that their clients will encounter new
problems migrating to the new versions, thereby insuring their continued
employment.