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"MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ucarn8fPKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>. bumped a prior post thinking, perhaps, it meant something more than it
> did:
> Sunny wrote:
>> > "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:eg%231Ma%23OKHA.4700@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Sunny wrote:
>>>> >>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> >>> news:OlzAU24OKHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >>>> . wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> "MEB" <MEB-nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>> news:#ND$wJ0OKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> <Big-snip>
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Take a chill-pill, billy-brown-noser.
>>>>> >>>> HAHAHA, so now we have the normal completely ignorant USENUTTER
>>>>> >>>> posting... how cute, does your mommy know your using the computer
>>>>> >>>> again?
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> I could care less what Microsoft wants you idiot... I CARE
> that some
>>>>> >>>> person WILL get prosecuted BECAUSE that's IS the Law, and a
> CRIMINAL
>>>>> >>>> act...
>>>> >>> Another example of your arrogance, that just because a person
> accesses
>>>> >>> a
>>>> >>> news group through Usenet (normal procedure) you classify them as
>>>> >>> beneath
>>>> >>> you.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> FWIW here in Australia there are ads in every daily newspaper
> "Ex Govt.
>>>> >>> computers for sale, complete with Operating System and Internet
>>>> >>> access".
>>>> >>> (I know two people who have bought them and no "activation has been
>>>> >>> required, and their OS has not been "disabled".
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Get out into the real World, for instance in most stores in
> Malaysia
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>> Singapore OEM CDs are on display for sale without any hardware
> purchase
>>>> >>> required. (and this in a Country that Microsoft has a large
> assembly
>>>> >>> plant
>>>> >>> that supplies Microsoft products to South East Asia)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>> >> AHHH, Sunny, why don't ONE of you actually look at those search and
>>> >> links provided THEN come back and TRY to continue as you are...
>>> >> might want to check those prosecutions around the world...
>> >
>> > I have "looked at" dozens of "prosecutions around the world" and the
> vast
>> > majority are against organised piracy groups that sell there stuff as
>> > "genuine".
>> >
>> > Prosecutions against individual users are a different story, and the
>> > majority have been thrown out of court.
>> >
>> > I attended a Microsoft seminar and product display in Singapore, and
> even
>> > there a couple of attendants were surprised that I intended to buy a
>> > retail copy of WinXP, and hinted that far cheaper alternatives were
>> > readily available.
>> >
>> >
>
> Yep, just as the music CIVIL prosecutions make the news, so do the
> MAJOR criminal prosecutions. Sorry doesn't mean anything,, keep looking.
>
> So did you buy some of those illegal copies???
>
> -- 
> MEB
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> The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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Back in the late 1990s heaps of US Ebay customers were selling MS Office 97 
Professional. They were selling them on Dutch auctions and usually had large 
numbers available. Anyway, I bid on and won six copies. They were all sealed 
and came with the installation licence number (or whatever you call it). I 
loaded one onto my machine and it worked fine. I then advertised the other 
five copies in the local newspaper. About a week or so later I was raided by 
about six or seven police officers. They seized the five copies and said 
they would contact me later (I had told them where and when I bought them 
and that hundred of people were selling them and buying them and that to my 
knowledge they were genuine original copies). About a year went by and then 
I was summoned to appear in the magistrate's court. To cut a long story 
short, the Magistrate dismissed the case as being frivolous and time 
wasting. The Magistrate said that any layman would just naturally assume 
that they were genuine copies and that included him. This was after the MS 
representative gave a long monologue about the lengthy in-depth training MS 
staff underwent to spot "illegal/pirated copies of software".  The MS rep 
also said that even if the software was genuine, it would be classified as 
being OEM and that it was against the law to sell OEM without the 
accompanying equipment (computer I guess). The Magistrate smiled and said as 
far as he was concerned, as long as the "OEM" software was legally obtained 
it became the property of the buyer and he/she owned it and therefore, could 
do what the heck they wanted with it. One of my arguments was how come Ebay 
or MS didn't spot the (literally) hundreds of sellers of the supposedly 
illegal/pirated/OEM software.
To my knowledge the software was legal and original and I guess OEM, as all 
it consisted of was the disk in a sealed case with the installation key and 
installation instructions.
I heard later that several other people went through what I did with the 
same end result.
Amen!!