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Re: @home avg download speeds

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From: Matt Y.
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:54
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Well written..it is easily the most lucid and objective explanation of the
differences between DSL and cable I have read to date. I agree 100%...both
DSL and cable are shared, the only difference is where the sharing occurs
down the pipe. Anyone who believes one is more secure over the other has
been fed bad information. As long as the IP addressed is fixed and you leave
you PC on all the time, you are ripe for probing (even with DHCP, you
machine is suspectible to IP sweeps).

I would only add that, at this time, neither DSL or cable has an overall
advantage over the other. Rather, if you are lucky enough to have both
available in your area, it is the provider who has done a better job of
network implementation, support and upgrade.

In CO, we are blessed with both offerings. However, US West/Quest has been
unable to keep up with demand and their price structures for comparable
cable modem speed would make it tough to afford execpt for the most avid
internet junky. AT&T/TCI on the other hand, appears to have benefited from
their sister company's growing pains in other regions and has done it right.
From day one (going back to Jan, 99), I have had a total of 4 days outage
(over two separate incidences) and it turned out that a damn squirrel chewed
through my line to the hub on one of them. I have had solid bandwidth that
averages out to over 1.2 mbps (400 kbps low, 2+ mbps high). Even during peak
I am typically at 800 kbps.

At least for now it seems that cable modem in the Denver Metro area is
winning the battle for the home user.

--

Matt Y.
SFL@nospam.com
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"Dakai" <dakai2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any connection to the internet is going to be shared, once past the telco
> switch, whether you are using dial up, DSL, cable or even a T1.  Why do I
> say that?  It's like this; at some point of your connection, you are going
> to hit a router, and beyond that router you will find shared bandwidth no
> "if's, and's or but's about it."
>
> I have DSL service at my home, my connection to the not shared to my home
to
> the telco CO switch, that is to say that my DSL is private to the telco.
> From the CO switch however that connection is shared.  Do you honestly
> believe that by having DSL service you are going to have a dedicated
circuit
> to your ISP?  If that is the case, why then when the telco has DSL
problems
> and my link goes down am I unable to make the link to my ISP?  Think about
> it people.  Your circuit is private from the demark (point of service at
> your home or office) to the CO, not from the demark to your ISP.  It just
> takes an understanding of telecommunications and routing to understand how
> it all works.
>
> A cable modem is a bit different.  I look at cable service (in theory) as
> going from my house, to a hub which then goes to a router and from there
> onto the Internet.  From everything that I have read, cable modem service
is
> private from your PC to the point of service, from there it is shared with
> other users in the local area.  The more persons that are online as the
same
> time as you does in fact decrease your bandwidth capability.
>
> I heard a commercial the other day for DSL that compared cable service to
> dsl, and claimed that dsl service was more secure than that of cable
> service.  I disagree with that claim and I think any knowledgable user
would
> disagree.  No internet connection is that secure, just ask any company who
> has had their firewall hacked.
>
> "Hank Mishkoff" <Hank@AddisonWeb.com> wrote in message
> news:0426843E64EE021B.8B9EAFA49A11AD1A.E86675C9889250A4@lp.airnews.net...
> > > > Right, but they're implying that cable is *not* shared bandwidth, so
> the ad is
> > > > misleading, at best.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > No they aren't.
> >
> > The commercial basically says something like: You shouldn't believe the
> > "high-bandwidth" claims of the phone company because it's *shared*
> bandwidth -- so
> > you should use AT&T Cable for Net access instead. (Obviously, that's not
a
> direct
> > quote.) Are you saying that you don't feel that that statement contains
an
> > implication that AT&T Cable is *not* shared bandwidth?
> >
> >
>
>
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