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Article #118Re: free speech/public safety vs. inidivdual rights (homolka cont'd)
From: Jim Mercer
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 04:45
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 04:45
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In article <1994Apr11.200910.29415@sizone.pci.on.ca>, Steak? with Nutrasuc <root@sizone.pci.on.ca> wrote: >Jim Mercer (jim@reptiles.org) wrote: > >: >What if the NSA managed to get encryption outlawed in the US somehow (a >: >radical point, but bear with me) - then you posted a uuencoded PGP >: >somewhere? > >: personally, i wouldn't resort to net.terrorism by placing PGP on systems >: where i'd be risking someone else's equipment/livelyhood. >: (but then sneaking a copy onto the NSA's machines would be poetic-justice). > >Once we all start abiding by laws which say that we cant trade PGP or >other encryption code, they'll see that it works to enforce such laws and just >enforce a whole bunch more like not allowing DISCUSSION of strong crypto, >for eg. Next thing you know we wont be allowed to talk about anything. But >since its the law and a site's feed might get shut down, we'd better abide >by this - this is what you're saying? yeah, that probably what i'm saying. if there is a threat that authorities will start shutting down newsfeeds, groups or mailing lists because they carry contraband info, then i'd say that intentionally punting that contraband into mainstream areas, where it will get noticed, expressly for the purpose of having it noticed, is a bad thing. (do i get an award for the longest run-on sentence?) should i be free to pump cindy's torment into ont.general on a regular basis because i don't agree with the authorities that it is obscene? if people's feeds get shut down because of my actions, am i a hero for the freedom of the press folks, or a self-righteous bastard, pushing to hard on other people's backs, to make a point? >You're placing an AWFUL lot of trust in the lawmakers and policing agencies. better some trust, than none. alot of the people who seem to be vehemently opposed to the ban, seem to think that our government is totally inept at dealing with our lives. sure, they screw up once in a while. hell, sometimes they even do things that some people don't approve of. welcome to representative democracy. i'd rather trust the government to try and maintain some level of balance, then to dump them and live in chaos. as it currently stands, i think Bosnia is one of the most free places in the world right now. you can say or do anything you want. mind you, that freedom has its costs. -- [ Jim Mercer Reptilian Research merce@iguana.reptiles.org +1 416 506-0654 ] [ "... or you can become a road-kill on the information superhighway." ] [ -- Colin Mcgregor ]
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