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Article #187Re: WiReD Magazine - Banned in Canada
From: Jim Mercer
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 06:49
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 06:49
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In article <2o3orj$9p8@panix.com>, Clay Shirky <clays@panix.com> wrote: >In <CnxEJu.4LJ@reptiles.org> jim@reptiles.org (Jim Mercer) writes: > >>(but then sneaking a copy onto the NSA's machines would be poetic-justice). > >Jim, I am stunned. I stopped replying to your posts when I realized >that our disagreement is not over this issue but over political >philosophies generally. You trust your Governemnt to control speech >responsibly, I do not trust any Government, mine even less than yours, >to do this. > >End of story, or so I thought, until I see this tag line. You have >understood that a section of the US Government does not want the best >for its citizens, and that despite the NSA's mandate to impoverish our >lives, you can see what a good idea it would be to ignore minor issues >of national borders in favor of a larger poetic justice. You have >exactly grasped our position on the ban. fine, then hack your way into the attorney general's computers and stuff a copy there. hell, just shoot for gov.on.ca, since i think that is their only internet reachable host. just don't stick it on someone else's machine so they catch the grief. as a side note, i'd argue that the Clipper/NSA issue is not just an american problem. canada abides by, endorses and similarly resticts the current DES export laws, and i haven't seen anything that convinces me that they wouldn't force canadians to live under the rule of Clipper as well. the concept that a canadian judge tried to keep secrets from the canadian people (the law is only in effect in canada), is not similar to the boneheaded concept of clipper, which the NSA/US Gov't knows full well will get exported to other countries. another side note, Clipper is an issue of privacy. the ban is an issue of non-privacy (anti-privacy?). i support privacy and in my opinion, free speech, if abused, conflicts with privacy. -- [ Jim Mercer Reptilian Research merce@iguana.reptiles.org +1 416 506-0654 ] [ "... or you can become a road-kill on the information superhighway." ] [ -- Colin Mcgregor ]
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