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Re: WiReD Magazine - Banned in Canada

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From: Clay Shirky
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 1994 02:24
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In <CnLpuy.9Lo@reptiles.org> jim@reptiles.org (Jim Mercer) writes:

>if pinheads would respect the law (even if it is stupid) and stop inflaming
>our bonehead management, the sysadmins could do their jobs without having
>to risk losing their jobs.

I'll make a deal with you, Jim. We'll respect all of your laws when
you respect all of ours. 

>if you have a beef with the law, you change it.  don't force others to fight
>your battle for you.

Since we don't enjoy a Canadian franchise, we can't change the law.

>as far as "spineless sysops" goes.  who is the spineless one?

>the sysadmin who bows under in order to keep the systems running for the 
>99% of the users who could care less about the ban, or the pinheads that
>continue to make noise about the grave injustice done by the government by
>not letting them get their daily dose of hideous murder descriptions?

The sysops are the spineless ones in this case.

>i'd say the spineless ones are those who fool themselves into thinking that
>they are doing battle with the ontario government by posting "banned" info
>into newsgroups.

Not "doing battle", just breaking the ban so people who want
information and dislike the law can get it.

>they are spineless because they can sit miles away, stir up shit, and not
>have to worry about getting any on themselves.

...which is precisely the point. Its our net Jim, yours and mine and
everyone else's who uses it, not the Canadian government's. If we
wanted to avoid upsetting provincial legal structures, much of the
alt.heirarchy would disapear in order to avoid offendng some
government or other.

>please, if you want to be active, why not use the fax service at
>chicken.planet.org to fax the FAQ to the Attorney General every day.

since we're not Canadian citizen's our voice carries no weight with
your AG.
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Subject: Re: WiReD Magazine - Banned in Canada
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