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Article #227Re: WiReD Magazine - Banned in Canada
From: Chris Lewis
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 1994 15:33
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 1994 15:33
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In article <1994Apr2.140546.600@sdg.dra.com>, <sean@sdg.dra.com> wrote: |In article <F033Jc4w165w@tanda.on.ca>, marc@tanda.on.ca (Marc Thibault) writes: |> If this had been a total ban, it would have been safely ignored. |> The conditions for a secret trial in Canada are so stringent |> that even serious national security cases get tried in public. I |> can tell you from personal experience that this is not the case |> in the US. I was an expert witness in a secret trial in your |> country and, if I remember the judge's warnings correctly (it |> was a very long time ago), merely admitting to having taken part |> in such a trial could land me in jail for twenty years. I would |> understand your concern if this situation had come up in the US. |Obviously you don't show "our" judges any degree of respect since you |seem to have no qualms about disclosing you took part in such a secret |trial even though the judge warned you against it. Why should we |show "your" judges any more respect than you showed ours? But he *is* showing your judges far more respect than you're showing ours. If he had descended to that level, he would have been trumpetting all of the details of the case (charges, names, etc.) all over the place (including, say, soc.culture.usa, ny.general etc.) starting years ago. Instead, so far, the only thing he's said was that a fully secret trial took place. Didn't even say when. In spite of the fact that a completely secret trial such as the one he attended is a far worse violation of your constitutional rights than the piddly little publication _delay_ we're yammering about here. -- Chris Lewis: _Una confibula non sat est_ Phone: Canada 613 832-0541 Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Latest psroff: FTP://ftp.uunet.ca/distrib/chris_lewis/psroff3.0pl17/* Latest hp2pbm: FTP://ftp.uunet.ca/distrib/chris_lewis/hp2pbm/*
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