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Enhanced 911 Services (rjwells@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
:    o  The vast majority of us Canadians, as in *people*, agree 
:       with this idea of banning evidence to protect the accused.
:       You are "helping" to thwart the democratic desires of the
:       Canadian people.

If a vast majority of Canadians think banning the press (I don't get 
'banning evidence'... I assume it's a typo) to protect the accused is 
either democratic or effective, they're simply wrong.  I say this as 
someone claimed by the US as a citizen (although I don't tend to 
sympathize much with that claim), but that's really quite irrelevant.  
There's no national boundaries that define what's free and unfree.  
Oppression anywhere is oppression, no matter how popularly it's embraced 
-- and whether or not I'm a 'citizen' of that oppressive state.

Majorities have been wrong about things before.  The vast majority of US 
southerners were opposed to integration in the 1950s.  The were just 
wrong morally and politically.  A majority of US citizens supported the 
butchery against Baghdad.  They were wrong about this.  I have no 
particular interest in majorities... and democracy DOES NOT mean ceding 
to majority opinion, but rather means continuing to argue against it in 
the name of truth and rights.

: Do you know what happened the last time a Canadian government pissed off 
: the Canadian people?  That's right -- we smashed them out of existence,
: down from a vast majority of some hundreds of seats to TWO SEATS. That's
: right, TWO.  They're not even an official party anymore.  When was the 
: last time something like this happened in America?  Not recently?  I'm
: not surprised.

Congratulations.  This was really quite wonderful.  It was especially 
wonderful since it was such an awful Party to start with.

: If I were you I'd be worried about the stranglehold a small group of
: people in two parties have on your political system.  I can tell you
: that right now Canadian governments are paying a lot of attention to
: the Canadian people and what they want -- there's a big dead Tory
: corpse on the ground to remind them what might happen if they don't.

Oh, I am worried about this.  I don't much care about this US vs. Canada 
nonsense.  Of course Canada is better in almost all respects.  And you're 
quite right that I'm very worried about the stranglehold by the 
Demlicans/Republicrats.  So what though? That's an interesting thread, 
but somehow unrelated to the censorship in the KH case.

: Democracy is alive and very, very well in Canada, thank you very much.

Well... alive, I think.  But it seems to have a bad cold.  Of course, in 
the US it has cancer or AIDS.

Yours, Lulu...
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