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Article #67Re: Hey, I know -- let's threaten the president in e-mail!
From: Tim Irvin
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 21:42
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 21:42
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In article <PwyiLc3w165w@burger.wimsey.com> orion@burger.wimsey.com (Orion) writes: > > >> In what other country is it openly argued that gun control is a bad >> idea because it makes it harder for people to engage in armed >> rebellion? Ironically, most of this sort of rhetoric goes on to say >> that people need the option of armed rebellion to make sure that the >> government doesn't take away their right to possess firearms! >> >> (I don't know of Canadians share in this same spirit with USAnians; my >> impression based on little data is that they're more rebellious than >> Europeans but less than USAnians.) > > > >Well, to be factual...a armed citizenry is probably more than just the >"best" defense against tyranny: it's quite possibly the ONLY defense. And >the government taking away the right of private citizens to own firearms >would effectively spell the end of Canadian democracy as we know it (show >me a TRUE democracy that doesn't allow private citizens (of _any_ ethnic >class or background) to own firearms...and isn't a conquered 'aggressor >nation, and ask yourself which is 'cause' and which is 'effect'. Perhaps. I guess America's founders believe that the armed citizenry made the revolution possible and served to keep government in check. >But to answer the original question: the Americans are different from us >for the same reason that they so vehemently resist the very *notion* of >any form of socialism...because THEY had to fight for their independance, >while we had ours handed to us (in my humble opinion, anyway). :) Well, that's a little oversimplified, but not entirely without merit. I think America was founded on principles of individualism, and principles die hard. I think there are some areas where it *should* die and some where it must be staunchly defended. When it comes to privacy and security issues, I'll side with the individual evry time, for example. Tim Irvin, Programmer/Analyst/Dinosaur Jockey Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., Inc., Sunnyvale, California Proud Warrior of the GenX Army--13th Brigade, Division #100865 ***** all standard disclaimers apply *****
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1510f0,f373a56299690e90 X-Google-Attributes: gid1510f0,public X-Google-Thread: f504b,a5ab070e57406043 X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: 1064b2,a5ab070e57406043 X-Google-Attributes: gid1064b2,public X-Google-Thread: 1159e4,a5ab070e57406043 X-Google-Attributes: gid1159e4,public X-Google-Thread: 1009fe,a5ab070e57406043 X-Google-Attributes: gid1009fe,public X-Google-Thread: fb1ea,a5ab070e57406043 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb1ea,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-04-30 06:37:16 PST Newsgroups: alt.wired,can.legal,can.general,alt.pub-ban.homolka,alt.fan.karla-homolka,alt.ce Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!nntp.gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!butch!LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM!J056600 From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Tim Irvin) Subject: Re: Hey, I know -- let's threaten the president in e-mail! Message-ID: <16FA7CEDCS86.J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> Sender: news@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc. References: <DRW.94Apr28160109@schauder.mit.edu> <PwyiLc3w165w@burger.wimsey.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 1994 21:42:35 GMT Lines: 46