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In article <Cp269o.1xx@cuug.ab.ca> branderr@cuug.ab.ca (Roy Brander) writes:
>Orion (orion@burger.wimsey.com) wrote:
>
>: Well, to be factual...a armed citizenry is probably more than just the 
>: "best" defense against tyranny: it's quite possibly the ONLY defense.
>
>Odd that the Russians managed to bring an end to the most terrible tyranny
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	Did the tyranny come to an end?  Or did it just change
	names?  Don't go to CNN for sources.

>in history without them.  There was some shooting, of course - and three
>people got done in during that coup on Gorbechev's vacation - but they
>just died on the streets protesting, and the essentially unarmed protest
>was successful; the army stopped shooting citizens not because the citizens
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	When did they stop shooting?

>had them outgunned and won a pitched battle; but because they couldn't
>shoot them all and they would have had to.

>Don't jump all over me; privately-owned guns have their place and their
>uses - but I question whether taking on the entire police/national guard/army
>of a democratic nation gone corrupt and tyrannical is one of them.

	Use of guns for home defense from burglars is a joke (unless
	you're the Delta commando who killed an intruder with his .357
	just before deploying to Iran--in other words a rare exception).
	The intended meaning of the 2nd Amendment is for an armed 
	citizenry to defend themselves  from a hostile government.
	Foreign or domestic.

>You won't win many pitched battles because if a significant number of a
>street crowd come to a protest armed and start dropping army people
>trying to contain it - the army is liable to get pissed off and start
>using their vastly superior organization, experience, coordination, vehicles,
>copters and heavy automatic weapons to just turn the entire crowd into
>strawberry jam.

	Guerilla warfare mean anything to you?

>I'm sure your imaginary scenario centres more on guerilla actions, making
>life difficult for the tyrants - sniping, sabotaging convoys, covert
>assassination.  This stuff is good, but most of it involves long-distance
>rifle work - not the handguns that are the major target of gun-control

	Who said anything about handguns...I'm talking FN-FAL 7.62X51

	David

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