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Article #73OBEDIENCE WAS: Hey, I know -- let's threaten the president in e-mail!
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Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 01:23
Date: Mon, 02 May 1994 01:23
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In article <2q1bvg$i98@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> sethf@athena.mit.edu (Seth Finkelstein) writes:
>In article <DRW.94Apr28160109@schauder.mit.edu> drw@schauder.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley) writes:
>>In article <klordCopFAG.Js6@netcom.com> klord@netcom.com (Kevin L. Lord) writes:
>> Something I've noticed about Americans, that (I've been
>> told, so don't blame me if I'm wrong... :) seems to be mainly
>> absent in most other countries... Americans... when told to sit
>> down and be quiet, will, without examining the reasoning of this
>> request often (not always!!! And not all of them... just a lot. :),
>> stand up and make lots and lots of noise... :)
> As far as has been experimentally tested for Americans, the
>above is empirically false. I refer you to Stanley Milgram's excellent
>and disturbing book "Obedience to Authority". In it, he discusses a
>series of (now fairly famous) psychological experiments he conducted.
>Many ordinary people, acting under orders from what they perceived as a
>legitimate authority, were willing to administer electric shocks to
>the point of causing a (simulated, for experimental purposes) heart
>attack in another person involved in simple tests.
> I don't know if anyone has done similar studies in Europe, but
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I would think that Hitler's social experiments would qualify
as not only comparable, but as more empirical as not only did
individuals carry out orders, but an entire nation and even
collaborators from foreign nations.
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