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Article #159Re: Should Altopia just claim bankruptcy?
From: ah
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:15
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:15
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Peter Hucker wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:17:12 -0000, Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote: > >> engineer2 <engineer2@the.lab> writes: >>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:25:40 +0000, Chris Caputo wrote: >>>> Taking into account our lower retention, if we offered $12/month >>>> unthrottled, with SSL and 10 streams, would that be reasonable? >>> >>> I've noticed that the number of simultaneous connections (streams?) >>> seems to be important to people, but I've never understood the reason. >> >> I imagine the reasons vary. >> >> With multiple connections you can download binaries in one group while >> browsing text messages in another, for example. >> >>> Does each one of your simultaneous connections add another increment of >>> throttled bandwidth? Other than that, I can't see any advantage. >> >> On our throttled connections, although our terms indicate that bandwidth >> is distributed across parallel connections, I haven't found it necessary >> to actually implement that and enforce it. Therefore, on our throttled >> offerings, multiple connections will actually increase overall >> throughput. >> >> In general, with TCP performance testing, I find that a single >> unthrottled stream is best able to utilize available bandwidth. Others >> may disagree or have more scientific input. > > My newsreader downloads using four connections. I usually get exactly the > bandwidth I've paid for, not four times that. Occasionally at non-peak > times it goes a lot higher, but I assume it's not being limited at those > times. That's a reasonably safe assumption, though it could be buffer under-run compensation. > >>> I've read that even ISP's are considering usage-based accounts (to >>> penalize you binaries junkies who download 24/7 from unthrottled NSP's >>> ;-) >> >> Some ISP's are rumored to be heading in that direction, no doubt. >> >> ISP's frequently buy from backbones using a 95th percentile method of >> billing, so bringing usage billing down to the consumer may be tempting >> for some business models. > > My ISP has an x GB per month for y amount of cash, plus can choose to pay > more per GB if you go over the limit, or have it just stop working. Sweet! -- ah
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X-Google-Thread: fd665,d4024adfc75b3a93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd665,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!eweka.nl!lightspeed.eweka.nl!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!63.218.45.10.MISMATCH!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!post02.iad01!post01.iad01!news.shared-secrets.com!not-for-mail Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:15:18 -0400 From: ah <splifingate@gmail.com> Organization: happy User-Agent: Mariozilla/3.5j (Nintendo64; U; WaveRunner m20478; en-US; rv:2.6c_pre2.7b) Princess Peach's Pudenta/20080214 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: altnet.general,alt.binaries.news-server-comparison Subject: Re: Should Altopia just claim bankruptcy? References: <1mqbsi.ap2.17.1@news.alt.net> <1gi9t35je5toe9av4p85r7vu28qrma00mb@nntp4.usenetserver.com> <1n19p7.9e8.19.1@news.alt.net> <q09ct3hq5p2in6gs895elisou6eofsqr4f@nntp4.usenetserver.com> <1n4f1m.lfg.19.1@news.alt.net> <IiYBj.3385$Ny6.3338@newsfet29.ams> <1n6krq.1dt.19.1@news.alt.net> <op.t7y9iqjo4buhsv@fx62> In-Reply-To: <op.t7y9iqjo4buhsv@fx62> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 Message-ID: <47e2312f$0$13860$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@shared-secrets.com