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Article #161Re: Should Altopia just claim bankruptcy?
From: Peter Hucker
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:03
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:15:18 -0000, ah <splifingate@gmail.com> wrote: > Peter Hucker wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:17:12 -0000, Chris Caputo <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote: >> >>> engineer2 <engineer2@the.lab> writes: >>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:25:40 +0000, Chris Caputo wrote: >>>>> Taking into account our lower retention, if we offered $12/month >>>>> unthrottled, with SSL and 10 streams, would that be reasonable? >>>> >>>> I've noticed that the number of simultaneous connections (streams?) >>>> seems to be important to people, but I've never understood the reason. >>> >>> I imagine the reasons vary. >>> >>> With multiple connections you can download binaries in one group while >>> browsing text messages in another, for example. >>> >>>> Does each one of your simultaneous connections add another increment of >>>> throttled bandwidth? Other than that, I can't see any advantage. >>> >>> On our throttled connections, although our terms indicate that bandwidth >>> is distributed across parallel connections, I haven't found it necessary >>> to actually implement that and enforce it. Therefore, on our throttled >>> offerings, multiple connections will actually increase overall >>> throughput. >>> >>> In general, with TCP performance testing, I find that a single >>> unthrottled stream is best able to utilize available bandwidth. Others >>> may disagree or have more scientific input. >> >> My newsreader downloads using four connections. I usually get exactly the >> bandwidth I've paid for, not four times that. Occasionally at non-peak >> times it goes a lot higher, but I assume it's not being limited at those >> times. > > That's a reasonably safe assumption, though it could be buffer under-run > compensation. It's My ISP doing traffic shaping. Avoid Plusnet. >>>> I've read that even ISP's are considering usage-based accounts (to >>>> penalize you binaries junkies who download 24/7 from unthrottled NSP's >>>> ;-) >>> >>> Some ISP's are rumored to be heading in that direction, no doubt. >>> >>> ISP's frequently buy from backbones using a 95th percentile method of >>> billing, so bringing usage billing down to the consumer may be tempting >>> for some business models. >> >> My ISP has an x GB per month for y amount of cash, plus can choose to pay >> more per GB if you go over the limit, or have it just stop working. > > Sweet! Except for the usenet speed. Although I could pay more for the gold band..... -- This message has been brought to you by nuclear power. Please don't tell the neighbours. http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Confuscious say: "People who make Confuscious joke speak bad English."
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