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Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service

#182
From: George G
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:48
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Bill <res00351@verizon.net> wrote in news:4lYEj.50$Oj5.4
@trnddc06:

> George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> [...]
>>Altopia sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to 
nym-
>>shift, Easynews does not.
> 
> Where exactly does it state that on its website?

He wrote it here in abn-s-c
MID: <1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net>

> It doesn't.  CC isn't foolish enough to hang out
> the "We Welcome Problem Posters" sign.  Altopia
> has a clear AUP and as long as its customers
> follow it, their accounts are safe, no matter
> how many complaints are sent.  And yes, there
> are no end to people who will send bs complaints.
> 
> In any event, you're much better off with the
> troublemakers on Altopia.  You can filter them
> out using a filter on the Path header, which
> will always include news.altopia.net.  The
> alternative is to force them to adopt spammer/
> sporger tactics, and there is unfortunately no
> end of exploited boxes for troublemakers to use.
> One gaggle of goons sporged this group for weeks
> for example - and if the newsadmins can't stop
> them from making a mess here, they aren't going
> to be able to stop them anywhere else.

I know how to filter on the path header using nfilter. Most 
usenet subscribers can't be arsed with that and simply fuck off  
to egroups and private fora.
 
> Besides, your premise about "Usenet Performance
> Artists" being the death of usenet groups is
> wrong.  Usenet groups die when the people who
> made them worth the subscription leave.  If a
> group was a music stage, then the musicians
> are what makes the group worth the visit.  Focus
> on the musicians, not the buffoons.

If the audience was chucking bottles and heckling, I'd leave the 
gig.
 
> If you are trying to keep a newsgroup viable,
> I'll give you more advice if you want it.

Thanks for the offer.
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Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
From: George G <invalid@invalid.invalid>
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