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Article #182Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
From: George G
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:48
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:48
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Bill <res00351@verizon.net> wrote in news:4lYEj.50$Oj5.4 @trnddc06: > George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > [...] >>Altopia sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to nym- >>shift, Easynews does not. > > Where exactly does it state that on its website? He wrote it here in abn-s-c MID: <1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net> > It doesn't. CC isn't foolish enough to hang out > the "We Welcome Problem Posters" sign. Altopia > has a clear AUP and as long as its customers > follow it, their accounts are safe, no matter > how many complaints are sent. And yes, there > are no end to people who will send bs complaints. > > In any event, you're much better off with the > troublemakers on Altopia. You can filter them > out using a filter on the Path header, which > will always include news.altopia.net. The > alternative is to force them to adopt spammer/ > sporger tactics, and there is unfortunately no > end of exploited boxes for troublemakers to use. > One gaggle of goons sporged this group for weeks > for example - and if the newsadmins can't stop > them from making a mess here, they aren't going > to be able to stop them anywhere else. I know how to filter on the path header using nfilter. Most usenet subscribers can't be arsed with that and simply fuck off to egroups and private fora. > Besides, your premise about "Usenet Performance > Artists" being the death of usenet groups is > wrong. Usenet groups die when the people who > made them worth the subscription leave. If a > group was a music stage, then the musicians > are what makes the group worth the visit. Focus > on the musicians, not the buffoons. If the audience was chucking bottles and heckling, I'd leave the gig. > If you are trying to keep a newsgroup viable, > I'll give you more advice if you want it. Thanks for the offer.
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X-Google-Thread: fd665,6115a8c8c2b1aaa6 X-Google-Thread: fcb2a,279b6242dd28ae27 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd665,gidfcb2a,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!out04b.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in02.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!indigo.octanews.net!news-out.octanews.net!mauve.octanews.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-in-01.newsfeed.easynews.com!news-in-02.newsfeed.easynews.com!core-easynews!easynews.com!easynews!en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: altnet.general,alt.binaries.news-server-comparison,uk.net.news.config Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service From: George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> References: <jsjut39cs1vtnf059k53kfbj75mict24u7@news.astraweb.com> <1nkaod.fks.17.1@news.alt.net> <Xns9A66CC4A0A43YAsfKJXSTO@194.117.143.38> <1np63u.7ve.19.1@news.alt.net> <QnPEj.29184$fB7.28447@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com> <1ie5pnf.40a1jt1ny3nb3N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk> <5OQEj.23210$Uf4.5433@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com> <op.t8dwt9wv4buhsv@fx62> <twWEj.155553$r03.153884@fe10.news.easynews.com> <MPG.224e075d702dd639897dd@news.sharkpost.org> <S_XEj.79982$6i4.8800@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com> <4lYEj.50$Oj5.4@trnddc06> Organization: Not Altopia User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25 Lines: 54 Message-ID: <BHYEj.29195$fB7.11780@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:48:33 GMT X-Original-Bytes: 3274