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Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service

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From: TheApostle
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:10
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This post, George G <invalid@invalid.invalid> 
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| > Clearly by the responses you've given in this subject, you are
| > the only troll people have to worry about. With that said, you
| > are the person responsible for your own actions - Easynews is
| > not. 
| 
| Altopia sells itself as the NSP that allows its customers to nym-
| shift,

I've never seen that selling point.  Can you please provide a link
to that on Alt.net's website which sells itself on the NSP that allows
it's customers to nym-shift.

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| Easynews does not. 

Really... Let's put that to the test.

Please show _where_ in Easynews' AUP that it states nym-shifting is
a TOS offence... and I'll even provide you with their TOS/AUP link.
https://www.easynews.com/agreement.phtml

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| That is why nym-shifting trolls use Altopia and not Easynews or the
| other quality NSPs that offer better retention, completion and more
| gigs for less money.

Are you truly this stupid or do you practise at it?  Perhaps you
live a sheltered life inside that hobble of a group you call home
... but Nym-shifting trolls have no preference to which NSP they 
use, let alone Alt.net.  
 
| > A NSP is not responsible for the actions of it's customers,
| > anymore than a car marker is responsible for your bad driving.
| 
| That's a poor analogy. Would your telephone provider knowingly 
| allow you to make anonymous threatening calls? That is a better 
| one.

There you go again, making a fool of yourself.  A telephone company
has a set of rules you have to follow in order to have their service
the same as an NSP/ISP. 

If it is not against the rules (re:law), a person is going to do whatever
they like and that doesn't change the facts that the telephone company is
and cannot be help RESPONSIBLE for the actions of it's customers.  

Sheesh.... how many times does a sledge hammer have to hit you upside 
of the head before this point gets driven into your thick head?

If a person makes an anonymous threatening call and is caught, who do
you think get's the charges laid against them.  The telephone company
or the person who made the call?  If you say the former - you provide
enough reason for nym-shifting trolls to ridicule you, cause you're
an idiot.
 
| >  To apply your logic would be ridiculous.  You're no doubt the
| > same kind of idiot moron who sues the gun company because the
| > gun killed someone, or the cigarette company for getting
| > cancer after smoking their product for 20 years... 
| 
| My logic?

Yes - we've covered that and you've made a fool of yourself.

| I'm critisising Altopia's policy of allowing nym-shifting 
| to troll. That is all.

What you're doing is blaming the NSP for other peoples actions
all because you can't report them to their provider and get rid
of them.  You're truly pitiful.  How does it feel knowing that
you're powerless, eh NetKKKop?
 
| > A NSP provides you with a privledge of Usenet service, and
| > people have to abide by the TOS/AUP of that service.  If
| > Alt.net's AUP isn't in agreement with your definition of what
| > "works" for Usenet than perhaps you should find another hobby
| > to occupy your pitiful existence, since being a Usenet netcop
| > isn't working out as well as you would have hoped. 
| 
| Netcop! Ha! You're ASSuming stuff again.

You said it yourself... 

    "I'm critisising Altopia's policy of allowing nym-shifting to troll"

Idiot.
 
| > Instead of trying to shift the blame for the
| > trolling/nymshifting trolls to the NSP/ISP's why don't you
| > quit your whining, stop feeding the nymshifting trolls, grow a
| > thicker set of skin, and learn how to filter properly.  
| 
| Please show me how to killfile a nym-shifting troll other than by 
| the path.

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Now you've been schooled, chump!
 
| > Now piss off ....ya slacked jawed Moron!
| 
| After you, knucklehead.

Wooowsers... a PKB lame.. no wonder you get picked on.  <laughs out loud>
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From: TheApostle <likes-to-fuck@mailme.org>
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Subject: Re: Altopia announces SSL and unthrottled service
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:10:57 -0400
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