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Re: Hypocrisy and PKB's (avoiding a simple question)

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From: Alley00p
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:35
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:47:22 +0100, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 15:40:45 +0100, (akula) <akula@sharks.plc.ltd> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 14:21:53 +0100, "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 06:45:56 +0100, (akula) <akula@sharks.plc.ltd> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:18:53 +0000 (UTC), Chris Caputo
>>>> <ccaputo@alt.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Peter Hucker" <no@spam.com> writes:
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 03:36:29 +0100,  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would think so: I've noticed articles expiring at different times in
>>>>>> the same group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct.  Our expiration times are not based on group name, but rather are
>>>>> based on article type (text/binary/size/# of parts).  For example, a text
>>>>> message posted to alt.binaries.x will last as long as a text message
>>>>> posted to alt.test.
>>>>
>>>> Did you ever stop to think just how stupid that is?  IF your servers
>>>> ever attain two years text retention, that means that if one were to
>>>> download headers from, say, alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.0-day two years
>>>> from now, they would see a million REQ: dating back up to two
>>>> years...just as an example.  Who the frig wants to waddle through all
>>>> those expired text posts?
>>>>
>>>> I guess people have come to expect such moronic reasoning from you,
>>>> Chris.  That's just one of many reasons why your NSP is third-rate.
>>>
>>> There are groups containing both chat and images.
>>
>> You're a fast learner, Chris.  They're called binary groups.
>>
>>> Why remove the chat before necessary?
>>
>> "Before necessary" what?  You get an 'F' in English.
>
>Short for "before it is necessary to do so", ffs.
>

(g) now, where oh where have I seen that 'ffs" used recently?


>> People that regularly follow any binary group (I suppose you're
>> referencing the many picture groups, whether porn or otherwise) read
>> the chit-chat and they're done with it, especially considering that
>> the vast majority of "chat" in a binary group consists of REQ:.
>>
>> Once that REQ: is filled, there is no need to retain the text.  Even
>> still, most binary groups are comprised of an ever-changing population
>> of posters and leechers.  That fact renders most 'conversations' in
>> such groups meaningless after a few months at the most.
>>
>> Besides, most downloaders don't give a rat's ass about what some moron
>> named RedDog who posts from a Verizon account thinks.  They are there
>> to download pics and videos.
>>
>> Most busy binary groups or hierarchies, such as the .mp3 and warez
>> hierarchies have their own discussion groups.  Many of the major porn
>> groups have their own discussion groups, as do the mainstream movie
>> groups, etc.
>>
>> Given all the above, there is absolutely *no* reason to retain text in
>> any binary group longer than the binary files themselves.  To do so
>> would only serve to clutter up a BINARY group whose only purpose is to
>> provide a means of sharing BINARY files, not text.
>
>Some groups aren't binary or text, they are BOTH.
>

Ah! no shit!

idiot.

>> People don't subscribe to a BINARY group to look at the rants and
>> raves of a control-freak named RedDog.  In such an instance, one DAY
>> of retention is too long...and you would like to retain such idiocy
>> for two YEARS or longer?
>>
>> As you are so fond of saying, Chris, once the reason(s) for
>> subscribing to a group no longer exist, it will die (loose
>> translation).  Clutter up a binary group with tons of old, meaningless
>> text files dating back two years or longer and see what happens.
>
>How about looking for a solution to a problem with something in one of the many microsoft.* groups for example?
>

They have no problem - unless you're referring to yourself.

>> That is why first-rate NSPs expire text files along with binary files.
>> Trust me, the issue has been well-thought out and researched by news
>> admins with far superior intellects to yours, Chris.
>
>If he set everything to expire at the same time, I'd most likely leave for another provider.  I don't want the text disappearing very quickly just so people can get binaries for longer.  I might be on holiday for a couple of weeks for example.
>

asswipe, the time frame was "text files dating back two years or
longer"

>P.S. is your brain too small to fit two people in there?  I ain't Chris and never have been, you're almost as dimwitted as the two trolls in here.

hey asswipe, is your brain large enough to fit two people in there?
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From: Alley00p <alley00p@mesazoic.net>
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Subject: Re: Hypocrisy and PKB's (avoiding a simple question)
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