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Dave Korn wrote:
> 
> "edward ohare" <edward_ohare@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3c4f0f02.8348929@news.alt.net...
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:20:11 -0000, "Dave Korn"
> > <no.spam@my.mailbox.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >edward ohare wrote in message <3c4d5733.439290@news.alt.net>...
> >
> > >>Uhhh.... yes, content is part of what they consider because the
> > >>message must convey substantially the same message.  Now, and I'm
> > >>laughing at this, a hipspew of irrelevant unrealated words strung
> > >>together, each post substantially different in the words used, _does_
> > >>convey substantially the same message, which is _there is no message_!
> > >>Its all meaningless, in any sense of the definition of meaningless.
> > >
> > >  heh, yeh, I agree with that definition of why hashbuster is actually
> all
> > >the same.  in fact I'm willing to declare any post that is statistically
> > >identical to noise as being noise.
> >
> >
> > There ya go!  Its noise, pure and simple.
> 
>   Yeh, rec.poetry.modern is full of it....  <g>
> 
> > >>Unless I missed it, CC hasn't said cascades were spam.  Others have
> > >>said cascades were spam.
> > >
> > >  he is apparently concerned that his users should cross-poast
> > >"responsibly".
> > >
> > >  and i am informed that he has a problem with some kind of apparently
> > >unholy devil-spawned accursed creation known as 'snuh'
> >
> >
> > Yea, well last Fall, I asked Kate to explain snuh to me, and she
> > instead said to take a look.  I did, and its still didn't make any
> > sense.
> >
> > So fill me in if you're willing.
> >
> 
>   Ya think it makes any sense to *me*?  Heh, Dean invented it but I'd be
> willing to bet it doesn't make any sense to him either!

Actually, I didn't, a poster that went by the name of General Failure
did.

Jason Schmitt, a db6 poster that goes by the name Honest Abe was one of
the original Snuh'ers.

It's based on a running gag on the Simpsons and Futurama that involves
words that end in *uh*.

I agree with you, though, it means as much as the Jabberwock.

> > >>I have a high degree of confidence that whether or not a specific
> > >>cascade qualifies as spam under the concensus definition would have
> > >>any effect on CC's views.
> > >
> > >  i can't parse that even if I assume there's a missing 'not' in there.
> >
> > Yea, I messed that one up.
> >
> > There's another post here that clarifies it.
> 
>   Yep, point taken and agreed though: the BI/spam standard is pretty much
> universal;  it's up to individual NSPs if they want to run their policies
> tighter, but running them looser will tend to get you filtered/blocked/UDPd
> in the end.
> 
>   It does seem though that Altopia is increasingly compromising or even
> abandoning the guiding principles on which it was founded.  That's a shame.

Yeah, as much as I feel they are still the leading NSP they have
abandoned their original intent.

That's OK, everyone has the right to change their outlook and I'm sure
dealing with endless abuse complaints (real or phony) over the years
wears one down.

On one hand, their AUP says Altopia believes in free speech, yet now it
defines what kind of *free speech* is acceptable.

Does free speech give me the right to run into a crowded theater and
falsely yell, "fire!!!"?

Yes.

Which is a Libertarian point of view, and Chris is a well-known
Libertarian.

This is the definition of *inconsistent*, which is the definition of
Altopia's AUP.

The best way to sum the AUP up is to say that if causes Chris extra
work, then it's against the AUP.




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