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"Kate" <anonyme@meow.org> sometime earlier, before I regained consciousness
from yet another drug induced coma, wrote in message:
news:5kvr4u8aid55hb0pj7dnbm3rg5jmojb1eb@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:49:06 -0500 "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski"
> >"Kate" <anonyme@meow.org> sometime earlier, before I regained consciousness
>
> >> >> At any rate, we've gotten a bit off track, and at the moment, I'm more
> >> >> interested in what ~CC~ considers to be spam, and the fact that I'd
> >> >> really rather that he didn't consider *all* cascades in that light.
> >> >
> >> >   He never said they were *spam*. He just has banned crossposted
cascades.
>
> >> Why? =)
>
> >   Send that to ccaputo@alt.net. He's the boss here. ;)
>
> I wrote today and asked that he read and reply in here as soon as he
> has the chance -- as I think we are at a point where we need the Word
> from the Man. Everyone has different opinions, fair enough. But the
> only opinion that is going to count is CCs. I'm ready to hear it,
> aren't you?


   Correct. However, I don't know if would have more to say than what is at
http://www.altopia.com/polfaq.htm. That clearly bans crossposted cascades.
Also, remember that at Altopia abuse issues are handled *exclusively* by
complaints. There are no filters here. Thus a crossposted cascade is OK so
long as it is done where nobody complains. The fact users of NGs are
complaining would mean that they consider it disruptive.


> >I'd think the reason
> >would be that the few bucks I pay a month wouldn't be worth having to deal
> >with a boatload of complaints about my crossposted cascades. Basically, all
I
> >expect of CC is that he drops in the bit bucket complaints like "your user
was
> >mean and flamed me" or "your user posted about drug use, and drugs are bad
so
> >cancel his account". I actually once was censored by an ISP for a
> >non-crossposted flame for posting to some idiot in an internal NG. They
didn't
> >like me using terms like "sucks used cock", and I used that to refer to a
> >*competitor*. I responded by firing the ISP. These are CC's disks, and if
he
> >wants to TOS me for having the gall and temerity for posting "sucks used
cock"
> >and offending the delicate sensibilities of the readers of altnet.general,
>
> My delicate sensibilities are offended. ;)


   Well, this is being crossposted to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet, thus I
could be breaking the rules here if that post is considered "trolling".
However delicate sensibilities shouldn't be the issue. Actually, in the case
of NANAU nobody has any business reading there if they have delicate
sensibilities. ;) The one problem I have with that "Cross-posting ability is
not to be used by customers for the purpose of "cascading", "flaming", or
"trolling". We may disable the cross-posting ability of a customer if we
believe they are cross-posting with one or more of these purposes." is the
part about *flaming*. I consider crossposted cascades a Bad Thing, and
excessive crossposted trolling can be. However, what is wrong if I reply with
a flame to something crossposted? I'd hope that ban is limited just to those
cases where a group of flamers add in innocent NGs to flood them the same way
crossposted cascaders do. However, I consider ordinary flaming to be an
inherent aspect of Usenet. People who strongly disagree will tend to flame
each other.


> >since I know he is a Libertarian I will respect his right to do so. He is
free
> >to do business with whoever he chooses to do so. I was truly *shocked* that
> >some news admin would toast my posting privs for using a 4 letter word on
> >Usenet. And, I laugh at the fact that after sacking that worthless ISP I
now
> >have a better one with a clue. For some reason, they don't mind my language
> >when I post their news servers are amongst the best I have seen at an ISP,
> >regardless of 4 letter words. ;)
>
> It helps lots being friends with your ISP peeps. =)


   However, one has no business being on Usenet if 4 letter words offend,
along with flames, unless they stick to moderated NGs. Usenet is more or less
an Internet rowdy bar than a polite nightclub. As such news admins should act
as "bouncers" of the type a rowdy bar would have. You've *really* got to go
over the line to get thrown out. ;)
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