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Article #359Re: x posted trolls now forbidden
From: rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:02
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:02
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"edward ohare" <edward_ohare@yahoo.com> sometime earlier, before I regained
consciousness from yet another drug induced coma, wrote in message:
news:3c4f0dc7.8033605@news.alt.net...
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:53:09 -0500, "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski"
> <rfgdxm@mochamail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Not true for drugs NGs to be in that crosspost. However, as
> >alt.recovery.from-12-steps is basically a NG of anti-AA and NA people,
> >obviously crossposting to the AA and NA NGs is sort of the idea.
>
>
> LMAO.
>
> Hasn't any of the new crop read the old Troller's FAQ? <g>
You mean this?:
http://www.progress.demon.co.uk/Fun/troll-faq.html
To me the mark of quality trolling is the ratio between how much the troll
posts and the amount of the responses. That post about being an alcoholic has
got to be one of the best ever. A 2 sentence post, and many hundreds of
replies. I remember I was the first to bite. I spotted it in the drug NGs, and
just made a quick response like "You might want to try AA unless you consider
them philosophically unacceptable." Most of the following posts were basically
me leading a debate between all 4 NGs about my argument that AA and NA are
blatantly *religious* organizations, which make them unsuitable for someone
like me who has at the core of their philosophy that God Is Dead. That
argument was most of the argument. Take a look at these from Google. Because
Google considers a change of subject to start a new thread, this troll thread
is broken up. Please note that after my first reply, that subthread is *320*
posts long!
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=6m7ia6%24dhs6%241%40newssvr04-in
t.news.prodigy.com&rnum=17&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dgroup:alt.drugs%2Bauthor:mildred
%2540prodigy.net%26hl%3Den%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D16%26as_minm%3D6%26as_min
y%3D1998%26as_maxd%3D19%26as_maxm%3D6%26as_maxy%3D1998%26start%3D10%26sa%3DN
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=6mm5dh%243vkc%241%40newssvr04-in
t.news.prodigy.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dgroup:alt.recovery.na%2Bauthor:mi
ldred%2540prodigy.net%26hl%3Den%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D5%26a
s_miny%3D1997%26as_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D1999%26selm%3D6mm5dh%25
243vkc%25241%2540newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com%26rnum%3D2
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=35885e53.20132429%40news.newsguy
.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DDiana%2BReinhagen%2Bgroup:alt.recovery.na%26hl%
3Den%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D5%26as_miny%3D1997%26as_maxd%3D2
3%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D1999%26selm%3D35885e53.20132429%2540news.newsguy.c
om%26rnum%3D1
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=6mpemf%24m9n%241%40republic-feed
.btigate.com&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3DDiana%2520Reinhagen%26as_ugroup%3Dal
t.recovery.na%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D5%26as_miny%3D1997%26as
_maxd%3D23%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D1999%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den
And, here is the little post that started it all. It must have been xnayed,
but I found it in a reply:
>On 17 Jun 1998 06:19:02 +0200, wrain@savageoasis.fc.net wrote:
>
>>My name is Diana Reinhagen, and I have just come to the realization
>>that I am an alcoholic.
>>
>>What now?
Hmm...perhaps I should try the *exact* same troll, and see if people will
bite again? ;) However, I doubt that it work as well unless I follow up my old
troll making that AA is a religion argument. The troll worked so well because
*I* bit. Also, one correction. The original post was crossposted to
alt.recovery.aa, alt.feminism, alt.drugs, alt.recovery.from-12-steps,
alt.abuse.recovery. Somebody later must have added in the NA NG. Now that I
look at that, unquestionably the original post was a troll. No alcoholic woman
would have chosen those exact NGs. However, exactly what a troll would do. The
alt.feminism in particular makes it overtly trollish, as even a knowledgeable
alcoholic crossposting to the other NG would also know that post was off topic
in alt.feminism, and not add that. The troll was a bit sloppy to add the
feminism NG but not the NA NG. There is perpetual arguing between
alt.recovery.aa, alt.recovery.na and alt.recovery.from-12-steps. The other
amazing thing here is this is a rare case of trolling recovery NGs that
*wasn't* malicious. It just stimulated debate.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.cc. My "Beginner's Guide to DXM"- Version 2.4,
and other DXM related material can be accessed from there.
Err...or maybe http://66.40.8.200
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