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Article #54Re: Why is there so many incomplete articles?
From: Gregory Hall
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:05
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 17:05
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<noway@jose.com> wrote in message news:56p4l4peofjog3jom8legj60olrf9e33sf@4ax.com... > On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 10:17:36 -0500, "Gregory Hall" > <greghall@home.fake> wrote: > >> >><noway@jose.com> wrote in message >>news:ioh4l458rqi4nbhsbcch0b7r8lkhvg0hk7@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:52 -1000, Habib <Habib@...> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Seeing the same problem in most of the video groups. >>>>Other servers do not seem to be having the same problem. >>> >>> I just checked the Altopia status page on the web and according to it >>> all systems are go and running fine as of today. Surely there aren't >>> that many uploaders having problems with their newsgroup providers. >> >> >>Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others. >> >>Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers." Taken >>as >>a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide professional >>service and they are lacking more often than not. If you want to download >>binaries you have to pay or else you spend the majority of your time >>frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the lower tier pay servers >>(octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have chronic problems with >>incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support group. >> >>It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous enough >>that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The good folks at >>NANA >>and NANU need to look into this problem because if there's a case of REAL >>abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs wreaking havoc with the >>network >>while they pretend to be something that actually does the job. > > Sorry, I'm having a hard time believing that all of a sudden in the > last few days people all across usenet have started posting thousands > upon thousands of uploads through free newsgroup providers resulting > in massive incompletes on Altopia. > > Yes Altopia has been a fantastic usenet resource with few if any > incompletes, until the last few days. I may be proven wrong but at > this point I'm not buying the 'free news service' theory. Well, on the other hand, it could have something to do with the long-planned and massive Usenet ddos attacks that were slated to happen around Christmas time. But, I wouldn't know anything specific about them, really. I suppose it's a continuation of the ongoing war between hackers and established, perceived centers of power and authority. Altopia is one of the best, if not the best, NSP in existence today but there's little they can do but pass on what they receive. If what they receive is crap then there's not much they can do about it. G.I.G.O.! The way Usenet is peered these days this is an unfortunate reality. The good guy servers try to support and enhance the not so good but what it all boils down to is the lowest common denominator sets the height of the bar. -- Gregory Hall
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