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Article #576Re: The Altopia AUP: An Excercise in making money
From: Clueless Wombat Cabal
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 00:00
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Fumbling with his secret decoder ring, <01be1d77$588e7f40$ce65440c@default>,
"R. Dexter Van Zile" <DZILE@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>> ? 3) Cutting off my service because one - ONE - jerk made a lot of noise
> about my
>> ? posts does not strike me as being fair.
>
> It's not fair, but it is economical.
>
>> I also question disciplinary action for articles which don't violate the
>> accepted use of the groups in question. When I get a warning about
>> crossposting to aavfff and/or af or even ar, I wonder if the application
>> of the AUP has gone beyond working with a NG charter, to alt.net's own
>> interpretations of the charter, regardless of what that ng regulars feel
>> about it.
>
> If altopia were somehow required to do research the NG charter or to find
> out what ng regulars feel about a specific post, that would result in
> something called "COSTS" which decreases something else called "PROFITS."
> The emphasis is on quick decisions, not on fair or good decisions.
>
And if altopia loses enough customers over such asinine decisions I think
that goes under "COSTS" not "PROFITS". Even the warez and pr0n customers
have got to wonder how far CC would go to defend their rights if
anti-pirate or anti-porn people or government investigators gave him
too much trouble.
I know I'd be wondering that.
>>
>> Indeed. I begin to feel altopia has gone from one extreeme to the other.
>> I personally felt the old AUP for altopia, while problems arose, erred on
>
>> the side of something better.
>
> altopia is about money, just like any other provider. It was never about
> freedom, free speach or any of that other hooey that its defenders and
> customers loved to talk about.
Gee that's not what his web site says ...
> As soon as it got too expensive or
> troublesome to deal with the complaints, CC did what he had to to make it
> stop.
Let that be a warning to binary customers - CC will probably do the same
for you if the time comes ...
--
"I'm sorry, I don't care about information:
I can make up all I need:"
- A. R. Ammons, "Glare"
mhm 20x10
wombats r us
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