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Article #66Re: Why is there so many incomplete articles?
From: Robert Miles
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:15
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:15
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"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message news:op.umr78dv04buhsv@fx62.mshome.net... > On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:26:57 -0000, Robert Miles > <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote: > >> >> "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message >> news:op.umqgb1oy4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net... >>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:24:36 -0000, Robert Miles >>> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Peeassha" <peaashcha@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:gitqso$rcb$1@news.motzarella.org... >>>>> >>>>> "Gregory Hall" <greghall@home.fake> wrote in message >>>>> news:2eq9bi.mju.17.1@news.alt.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> <noway@jose.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ioh4l458rqi4nbhsbcch0b7r8lkhvg0hk7@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:52 -1000, Habib <Habib@...> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Seeing the same problem in most of the video groups. >>>>>>>>Other servers do not seem to be having the same problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just checked the Altopia status page on the web and according to >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> all systems are go and running fine as of today. Surely there >>>>>>> aren't >>>>>>> that many uploaders having problems with their newsgroup providers. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others. >>>>>> >>>>>> Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers." >>>>>> Taken >>>>>> as a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide >>>>>> professional service and they are lacking more often than not. If you >>>>>> want to download binaries you have to pay or else you spend the >>>>>> majority >>>>>> of your time frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the >>>>>> lower >>>>>> tier pay servers (octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have >>>>>> chronic >>>>>> problems with incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support >>>>>> group. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous >>>>>> enough that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The good >>>>>> folks at NANA and NANU need to look into this problem because if >>>>>> there's >>>>>> a case of REAL abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs wreaking >>>>>> havoc with the network while they pretend to be something that >>>>>> actually >>>>>> does the job. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Gregory Hall >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> AIOE was certainly the cause of a lot of this with their stupid >>>>> useless >>>>> filters which backfired and loused up everything. Why would they even >>>>> consider filtering when usenet is supposed to be an open forum? >>>> So you enjoy reading spam and messages from trolls? Since my >>>> newsreader >>>> program isn't especially good at filtering out the spammers and trolls >>>> who >>>> keep changing their return addresses, I'd prefer to have the newsgroups >>>> arrive with them already filtered out. >>>> >>>> I've already created about 1000 rules to filter out unwanted posts >>>> from those who don't keep changing their return addresses. >>>> >>>> Robert Miles >>> >>> You assume they only filter what you want them to filter..... >>> >>> Peter Hucker >> . >> So let those who can afford it also offer an unfiltered option for those >> who prefer that. I'd still prefer an option to have the spam and trolls >> filtered out, at no extra charge, for those whose software can't do it. >> Or, alternatively, a requirement for all newsreader programs to offer >> the option of filtering by IP address of the original poster if that >> newsreader is included in anything still being sold, such as Vista, and >> also offer the option of importing and exporting the filtering rules so >> I can share my filtering rules with anyone with the same opinions of >> what to filter out. >> >> Robert Miles > > IP address? What's mine? > > Peter Hucker > You're one of the few people I've seen posting messages with headers that don't show the IP address. Filtering out the spammers and trolls whose headers show a constant IP address would be a big improvement, even if there are a few who wouldn't be filtered out that way. Robert Miles
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