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Re: Why is there so many incomplete articles?

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From: Robert Miles
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:15
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"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message 
news:op.umr78dv04buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:26:57 -0000, Robert Miles 
> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:op.umqgb1oy4buhsv@fx62.mshome.net...
>>> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 05:24:36 -0000, Robert Miles
>>> <robertmiles@bellsouthnospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Peeassha" <peaashcha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gitqso$rcb$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gregory Hall" <greghall@home.fake> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2eq9bi.mju.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <noway@jose.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ioh4l458rqi4nbhsbcch0b7r8lkhvg0hk7@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:12:52 -1000, Habib <Habib@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Seeing the same problem in most of the video groups.
>>>>>>>>Other servers do not seem to be having the same problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just checked the Altopia status page on the web and according to 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> all systems are go and running fine as of today.  Surely there 
>>>>>>> aren't
>>>>>>> that many uploaders having problems with their newsgroup providers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Altopia stands head and shoulders above all the others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Generally you will find the fault lies with the "free newsservers."
>>>>>> Taken
>>>>>> as a whole they are little more than amateur attempts to provide
>>>>>> professional service and they are lacking more often than not. If you
>>>>>> want to download binaries you have to pay or else you spend the
>>>>>> majority
>>>>>> of your time frustrated because of incompletes. Even some of the 
>>>>>> lower
>>>>>> tier pay servers (octanews comes to mind of late) seem to have 
>>>>>> chronic
>>>>>> problems with incompletes as evidenced by posts to their support 
>>>>>> group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's unfortunate that inept, amateur free NSPs have gotten numerous
>>>>>> enough that they now seem to be giving ALL NSPs a bad name. The good
>>>>>> folks at NANA and NANU need to look into this problem because if
>>>>>> there's
>>>>>> a case of REAL abuse of the network it's these amateur NSPs wreaking
>>>>>> havoc with the network while they pretend to be something that 
>>>>>> actually
>>>>>> does the job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gregory Hall
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AIOE was certainly the cause of a lot of this with their stupid 
>>>>> useless
>>>>> filters which backfired and loused up everything. Why would they even
>>>>> consider filtering when usenet is supposed to be an open forum?
>>>> So you enjoy reading spam and messages from trolls?  Since my 
>>>> newsreader
>>>> program isn't especially good at filtering out the spammers and trolls
>>>> who
>>>> keep changing their return addresses, I'd prefer to have the newsgroups
>>>> arrive with them already filtered out.
>>>>
>>>> I've already created about 1000 rules to filter out unwanted posts
>>>> from those who don't keep changing their return addresses.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Miles
>>>
>>> You assume they only filter what you want them to filter.....
>>>
>>> Peter Hucker
>> .
>> So let those who can afford it also offer an unfiltered option for those
>> who prefer that.  I'd still prefer an option to have the spam and trolls
>> filtered out, at no extra charge, for those whose software can't do it.
>> Or, alternatively, a requirement for all newsreader programs to offer
>> the option of filtering by IP address of the original poster if that
>> newsreader is included in anything still being sold, such as Vista, and
>> also offer the option of importing and exporting the filtering rules so
>> I can share my filtering rules with anyone with the same opinions of
>> what to filter out.
>>
>> Robert Miles
>
> IP address?  What's mine?
>
> Peter Hucker
>
You're one of the few people I've seen posting messages with headers
that don't show the IP address.  Filtering out the spammers and trolls
whose headers show a constant IP address would be a big improvement,
even if there are a few who wouldn't be filtered out that way.

Robert Miles
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